+- The CB1100 Community Forum (https://cb1100forum.net/forum)
+-- Forum: Honda CB1100 Discussions (https://cb1100forum.net/forum/forumdisplay.php?fid=5)
+--- Forum: Mechanical & Technical (https://cb1100forum.net/forum/forumdisplay.php?fid=7)
+--- Thread: NGK LMAR8A-9 vs -9S (/showthread.php?tid=4197)
Pages:
1
2
NGK LMAR8A-9 vs -9S - bflint - 01-07-2021
Noticed that mechanics have historically used NGK LMAR8A-9 spark plugs on my 2014 CB1100DX. Noticed that the spec says to use NGK LMAR8A-9S for Honda's. Asked ngk.com (aka sparkplugs.com) vendor about this ... their answer: "The only difference is the the "S" on part number 6817 LMAR8A-9S stands for special gasket. Usually the means the gasket is made of stainless steel. The NGK-4313 LMAR8A-9 plugs just have the standard plated steel gasket." FYI, the two models are both $6.54ea from this vendor. Anyway, I bought the 9S model.
RE: NGK LMAR8A-9 vs -9S - Houtman_imp - 01-07-2021
A wise move to use the proper spark plug , the washer is there for a reason.
RE: NGK LMAR8A-9 vs -9S - peterbaron - 01-08-2021
^^+1^^
Awaiting spring instalment:
![[Image: 77dafc37186c8278454114dddebd58c3.jpg]](https://cb1100forum.net/forum/uploads/imp/202101/77dafc37186c8278454114dddebd58c3.jpg)
![[Image: 4ce3398f78c40ee631491136bc74b1ab.jpg]](https://cb1100forum.net/forum/uploads/imp/202101/4ce3398f78c40ee631491136bc74b1ab.jpg)
RE: NGK LMAR8A-9 vs -9S - the Ferret - 01-08-2021
(01-07-2021, 04:45 PM)bflint_imp Wrote: Noticed that mechanics have historically used NGK LMAR8A-9 spark plugs on my 2014 CB1100DX. Noticed that the spec says to use NGK LMAR8A-9S for Honda's. Asked ngk.com (aka sparkplugs.com) vendor about this ... their answer: "The only difference is the the "S" on part number 6817 LMAR8A-9S stands for special gasket. Usually the means the gasket is made of stainless steel. The NGK-4313 LMAR8A-9 plugs just have the standard plated steel gasket." FYI, the two models are both $6.54ea from this vendor. Anyway, I bought the 9S model.
So you have been running the non S plugs in your dlx without issue?
BTW here's an interesting thread about the plugs and post 79 by Max may very well explain the purpose of the special washer
http://cb1100forum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=6154&highlight=spark+plugs
RE: NGK LMAR8A-9 vs -9S - bflint - 01-08-2021
(01-08-2021, 01:18 AM)The ferret_imp Wrote:All my service invoices show the non-S plug part number. This is the first time I looked at the installed plugs ... so can only testify that last dealer (my fav MotoWorld .. not) installed non-S plugs. Seemed to run ok. Just one more reason though to do my own work here in San Diego. I have always told the service dept's that I am not concerned about costs ... I just want it done correctly and to use OEM stuff ... these NGK plugs are the first non-OEM mech stuff I have knowingly purchased based on current lead times to get the Honda OEM plugs. OBW .. could not find the Max post in the link you posted.(01-07-2021, 04:45 PM)bflint_imp Wrote: Noticed that mechanics have historically used NGK LMAR8A-9 spark plugs on my 2014 CB1100DX. Noticed that the spec says to use NGK LMAR8A-9S for Honda's. Asked ngk.com (aka sparkplugs.com) vendor about this ... their answer: "The only difference is the the "S" on part number 6817 LMAR8A-9S stands for special gasket. Usually the means the gasket is made of stainless steel. The NGK-4313 LMAR8A-9 plugs just have the standard plated steel gasket." FYI, the two models are both $6.54ea from this vendor. Anyway, I bought the 9S model.
So you have been running the non S plugs in your dlx without issue?
BTW here's an interesting thread about the plugs and post 79 by Max may very well explain the purpose of the special washer
http://cb1100forum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=6154&highlight=spark+plugs
RE: NGK LMAR8A-9 vs -9S - the Ferret - 01-08-2021
Page 8 post #79 is Max's post
RE: NGK LMAR8A-9 vs -9S - Cormanus - 01-08-2021
Direct link to Max's post: http://cb1100forum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=6154&pid=200018#pid200018
RE: NGK LMAR8A-9 vs -9S - bflint - 01-09-2021
(01-08-2021, 11:13 AM)Cormanus_imp Wrote: Direct link to Max's post: http://cb1100forum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=6154&pid=200018#pid200018Thanks for the Max link Mr Cormanus. What a straightforward conclusion based on real evidence ... not fake news. Thanks Mr Max.
RE: NGK LMAR8A-9 vs -9S - the Ferret - 01-09-2021
That Max seems to be a pretty smart fella and luckily shares his observations/ knowledge with us
RE: NGK LMAR8A-9 vs -9S - Cormanus - 01-09-2021
^^ +1
This forum is lucky to have a good number of people like him.