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Could not should - ThomWill_imp - 05-15-2014
Right after my wife and very frequent pillion passenger bought me the CB1100 for my birthday last year we went for a brief but completely uncomfortable 2 up ride. We are not little people but since then I have lost 30lbs and she has lost 20. Tonight we went for a longer and much less uncomfortable two up jaunt on Katie... Do more two up riding on this bike? Could; not should. I think we will keep to to the big touring machine for that kind of ride where we have more room for our large... elbows ;-D
RE: Could not should - davidsargee_imp - 05-15-2014
I can see how the CB1100 would be difficult for 2 up rides, particularly long ones. I ride solo, so it's not a hinderance to me, but if I had a regular passenger, I would probably want a bigger bike for trips.
Was in the Honda dealership a couple of days ago, they have a '13 model on the floor next to a row of V-twin cruisers, and the CB looked small compared to the cruisers, they dwarfed it. I like that about the CB, someone at work, (a non rider), said it looks like a motor with 2 wheels.
RE: Could not should - The Spaceman_imp - 05-15-2014
Remember when the CB750 was a BIG BIKE? I do; the only ride bigger was a Harley, and in those days nobody in my circles would ride any HD that wasn't an XL or a chopper.
Its interesting how our frame of reference changes as it does. Another example: the VTX 1800 engine was a monster when it cdme out. Now its...average.
RE: Could not should - ThomWill_imp - 05-15-2014
(05-15-2014, 09:04 PM)The Spaceman_imp Wrote: Remember when the CB750 was a BIG BIKE? I do; the only ride bigger was a Harley, and in those days nobody in my circles would ride any HD that wasn't an XL or a chopper.
Its interesting how our frame of reference changes as it does. Another example: the VTX 1800 engine was a monster when it cdme out. Now its...average.
Yes! Of course I was also a MUCH smaller person then.
The CB1100 has more than enough power for us two up but for us it is about seating area length. From backrest to tank the CB measures 27 inches whereas my Triumph is 31, the Suzuki 850 is 30ish, and my Yamaha RSTD is closer to 33.
RE: Could not should - cbdtran_imp - 05-16-2014
(05-15-2014, 11:56 AM)ThomWill_imp Wrote: Right after my wife and very frequent pillion passenger bought me the CB1100 for my birthday last year we went for a brief but completely uncomfortable 2 up ride. We are not little people but since then I have lost 30lbs and she has lost 20. Tonight we went for a longer and much less uncomfortable two up jaunt on Katie... Do more two up riding on this bike? Could; not should. I think we will keep to to the big touring machine for that kind of ride where we have more room for our large... elbows ;-D
the cb11 is not for 2 up. I took my son out for a ride few months back, the ride is not comfortable for both of us, the bike exhibits lack of juice for total weight of $850lbs+
RE: Could not should - Red Mist_imp - 05-16-2014
I bought the CB1100 for two-up use. It works beautifully. My friend and I have done quite a few rides together; she's 120 pounds without gear. Together with a small tank bag we're about 280 lbs. I bumped the shocks to the maximum (position 5) and set the tires to maximum pressure and the bike handled beautifully. No issues with power. The last bike I had for two-up riding (same passenger) was a 2006 Dyna Super Glide, which weighs 700 pounds all by itself and is pushing nearly a half-ton loaded. It also worked well as two-up touring mount and we put a lot of miles on that bike together.
The Dyna is much slower and heavier than the CB1100 so if one does the math, the CB1100 is a rocketship compared to the Harley. It has excellent brakes, too. I think it could use a better seat but other than that...?
I don't know what kind of power someone is looking for but maybe a Hayabusa or FJR1300 is in order. We tend to get rather obsessed with power but a bike of moderate capabilities can be integrated into the traffic flow much more easily than an outlier. The CB1100 is MOR all the way, which is why it does work so well.
RE: Could not should - the Ferret - 05-16-2014
The CB has plenty of power for two up riding and there is difference in where a lot of people sit on the seat. Because I have short arms and legs (no munchkin jokes please) I sit up against the tank and weigh 180. Plenty of room out back for a passenger on my bike although the seat IS 3 inches shorter in length than my ST 1300s.
It's still much better than the rear seat on many cruisers and crotch rockets.
Could not should - Ridem32_imp - 05-16-2014
+1 redmist & ferret Everytime I ride my bike I like it more & more
RE: Could not should - RetroSeattle_imp - 05-16-2014
I installed the Honda luggage rack and top box (from Samurider) and my wife reports all is good. Having the backrest to lean against makes all the difference for her. I am a big guy - 6 foot 4 and 230 pounds, she is a svelte 130 pounds. We took a three hour ride and no complaints from Madam.
RE: Could not should - Red Mist_imp - 05-16-2014
(05-16-2014, 01:49 AM)The ferret_imp Wrote: The CB has plenty of power for two up riding and there is difference in where a lot of people sit on the seat. Because I have short arms and legs (no munchkin jokes please) I sit up against the tank and weigh 180. Plenty of room out back for a passenger on my bike although the seat IS 3 inches shorter in length than my ST 1300s.I just got back from a ride on mine and was trying to figure out why someone would say it lacked power.
It's still much better than the rear seat on many cruisers and crotch rockets.
Only two reasons: one, you've just got some super-size folks, maybe the twain of you are pushing over 400 pounds. Even still, the bike isn't anemic by any means.
Second, as I've noticed here, some riders just aren't comfortable or used to getting the tach on the boil, that is, above 4,000 rpm. Two-up, just downshift and keep the bike in the power. Also one's clutch skills come seriously into play here; you need to be good at slipping and fanning and making sure you're in the right gear.
If you aren't comfy carrying two on the CB1100, by all means, don't do it until you are.
(Actually being comfortable with something has nothing to do with whether we can do it well. I know plenty of people who were quite comfortable with circumstances and things turned out not so well.)