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interesting experience...ear plugs...tinnitus - the Ferret - 02-23-2017

I have tinnitus, pretty bad. Shooting guns at a steel target in my mom and dads basement as a kid, rock and roll concerts as a sub adult, 10 years of racing 2 stroke motocross bikes in my 20's and 52 years of street motorcycling have been very damaging to my hearing. They ring all the time, pretty loudly, 24/7/365. You kind of learn to accept/ignore it, or you would never go to sleep lol. There is no relief from the ringing...ever..well except when you are actually asleep. Then you don't hear it. Otherwise it's always there, a high pitched squeal. As I understand it from my doctor, there is no cure.

Anyhow on todays ride I experimented with ear plugs. Foam for 60 miles, and gel for 60 miles. First off, wonder if you have tinnitus? Put in ear plugs. They block out most sounds other than the ones already in your head, which are amplified as a result.

Both were easy to put in although the foam requires you to roll it between your fingers to form it into a taper, then reach over your head with the opposite hand and pull your ear canal open before inserting plug. With the gel you just roll them into a ball and mush them in there using the appropriate hand for the side.

Both did a great job of blocking out other sounds. Couldn't really hear the wind. Couldn't really hear the bike. Couldn't hardly hear my horn lol. I was on my ST and the windshield also tends to block wind sound and air pressure feel. Chewing gum sounded very..um..juicy. Wow what weird noises. Clicking my teeth together sounded like someone knocking on a door. Talking or singing out loud in my helmet was really loud...and off key a lot of times lol. Because I couldn't hear the wind or the bike rpms I found myself riding faster than normal, apparent by having to trail brake on curves I was entering too fast and wasn't used to braking on. Also by looking down at my speedo and going "Oh crap I'm way over the limit", followed by more braking.

The foam plugs hurt my ears after an hour and was glad to make the switch to gel at the 60 mile mark. The gel were much more comfortable for me. The package said they could be reused up to 40 times. Got them at Kroger grocery, they were for kid swimmers.

Have a feeling most of the time I am still not going to wear them, at least on the ST. It was a weird experience. I felt isolated from the riding experience if that makes sense. I will try them on the CB and see if there is any difference.

I would highly recommend the gel plugs to anyone who doesn't already have the damage to their ears. They are soft, comfortable, effective and reusable many times over. If I do wear earplugs again, it will be the gels.


RE: interesting experience...ear plugs...tinnitus - 4 Paws_imp - 02-23-2017

If I only knew then what I know now! Hearing loss is more than an inconvenience.

Started wearing ear plugs too late also, went through every kind imaginable since I was in industrial construction and could get handfulls of free samples from everyone. Finally bit the bullet and got custom moulded ear plugs fro an audiologist- courtesy of my insurance.

On the notify me list for when Sena releases its helmet with active noise cancellation.


RE: interesting experience...ear plugs...tinnitus - silverbub_imp - 02-23-2017

I use the "shooter's" ear plugs which are connected with a plastic "line" that I cut off...each ear plug has at least three concentric soft plastic "discs" that go from smaller size farthest into ear to the largest size disc least into the ear canal...there is a soft plastic "drumstick-tab" at back of ear plug for grasping the plug for insertion into ear canal...for me...they have worked out satisfactory...they are kind of a hi-vis lemon green with a nice blue "pill-box" container to keep in jacket, etc...I always wet them with water or saliva prior to placement so as to get a better sealing of the ear canal...The only downside to me was through continued use...the "drumstick-tab" at back of plugs would come out of their molded "pocket" from rest of the plug when trying to remove them from ear...Ending up with only the drumstick finger tab in my hand & the ear plug still in my ear canal has led to exercising my patience!!...This has happened only after considerable number of uses however...but it does require some creative problem solving methods when trying to safely extract a rather firmly placed plug in ear without the pull tab!!...The few times I have ridden without ear plugs for any distance/time has caused rather severe headaches and ear ache!...now the ringing whoosh continually at my personal level is motivation enough to ALWAYS use ear plugs with the rest of riding gear!


RE: interesting experience...ear plugs...tinnitus - Nortoon_imp - 02-23-2017

(02-23-2017, 08:14 AM)silverbub_imp Wrote: I use the "shooter's" ear plugs which are connected with a plastic "line" that I cut off...each ear plug has at least three concentric soft plastic "discs" that go from smaller size farthest into ear to the largest size disc least into the ear canal...there is a soft plastic "drumstick-tab" at back of ear plug for grasping the plug for insertion into ear canal...for me...they have worked out satisfactory...they are kind of a hi-vis lemon green with a nice blue "pill-box" container to keep in jacket, etc...I always wet them with water or saliva prior to placement so as to get a better sealing of the ear canal...The only downside to me was through continued use...the "drumstick-tab" at back of plugs would come out of their molded "pocket" from rest of the plug when trying to remove them from ear...Ending up with only the drumstick finger tab in my hand & the ear plug still in my ear canal has led to exercising my patience!!...This has happened only after considerable number of uses however...but it does require some creative problem solving methods when trying to safely extract a rather firmly placed plug in ear without the pull tab!!...The few times I have ridden without ear plugs for any distance/time has caused rather severe headaches and ear ache!...now the ringing whoosh continually at my personal level is motivation enough to ALWAYS use ear plugs with the rest of riding gear!

I tried those after I got fed up with the Drugstore foam ones. They were alright for a couple of hours, but then became uncomfortable. Later in the afternoon one of them would come loose. That meant stopping, removing my helmet, a re-inserting it. The longer I rode the more insertions were needed.
(02-23-2017, 06:51 AM)The ferret_imp Wrote: I have tinnitus, pretty bad. Shooting guns at a steel target in my mom and dads basement as a kid, rock and roll concerts as a sub adult, 10 years of racing 2 stroke motocross bikes in my 20's and 52 years of street motorcycling have been very damaging to my hearing. They ring all the time, pretty loudly, 24/7/365. You kind of learn to accept/ignore it, or you would never go to sleep lol. There is no relief from the ringing...ever..well except when you are actually asleep. Then you don't hear it. Otherwise it's always there, a high pitched squeal. As I understand it from my doctor, there is no cure.

Anyhow on todays ride I experimented with ear plugs. Foam for 60 miles, and gel for 60 miles. First off, wonder if you have tinnitus? Put in ear plugs. They block out most sounds other than the ones already in your head, which are amplified as a result.

Both were easy to put in although the foam requires you to roll it between your fingers to form it into a taper, then reach over your head with the opposite hand and pull your ear canal open before inserting plug. With the gel you just roll them into a ball and mush them in there using the appropriate hand for the side.

Both did a great job of blocking out other sounds. Couldn't really hear the wind. Couldn't really hear the bike. Couldn't hardly hear my horn lol. I was on my ST and the windshield also tends to block wind sound and air pressure feel. Chewing gum sounded very..um..juicy. Wow what weird noises. Clicking my teeth together sounded like someone knocking on a door. Talking or singing out loud in my helmet was really loud...and off key a lot of times lol. Because I couldn't hear the wind or the bike rpms I found myself riding faster than normal, apparent by having to trail brake on curves I was entering too fast and wasn't used to braking on. Also by looking down at my speedo and going "Oh crap I'm way over the limit", followed by more braking.

The foam plugs hurt my ears after an hour and was glad to make the switch to gel at the 60 mile mark. The gel were much more comfortable for me. The package said they could be reused up to 40 times. Got them at Kroger grocery, they were for kid swimmers.

Have a feeling most of the time I am still not going to wear them, at least on the ST. It was a weird experience. I felt isolated from the riding experience if that makes sense. I will try them on the CB and see if there is any difference.

I would highly recommend the gel plugs to anyone who doesn't already have the damage to their ears. They are soft, comfortable, effective and reusable many times over. If I do wear earplugs again, it will be the gels.

I currently use 3M E-A-Rsoft Yellow Neons. They are softer than the drugstore foam ones. The are comfortable to wear all day and do not pop out. You do have to roll them smaller before insertion. I moisten mine and don't have to bother with the overhead arm routine. If they do not slid in easily, I just give them a little twist.

I am not quite sure by what you mean by gel plugs. The swimmers plugs I have tried are like soft wax. The more you work them with your fingers, the more pliable they become. I wore them one day. They were comfortable, stayed put, but blocked out almost all sound. I could not hear what the gas station attendant was trying to tell me. I checked my tires just in case I had a flat. At home I found out in an e-mail that I won bonus points for my gas card.

Can you provide the brand name or manufacturer of the gel plugs?


RE: interesting experience...ear plugs...tinnitus - LongRanger_imp - 02-23-2017

Ferret, I'm stunned you're not a devout ear plug user. I am (custom-molded silicon earplugs for the last 25 years) and MY tinnitus is off the charts. I can't imagine what you're experiencing, but it must be horrendous.


RE: interesting experience...ear plugs...tinnitus - Vic_imp - 02-23-2017

(02-23-2017, 06:51 AM)The ferret_imp Wrote: I have tinnitus, pretty bad. Shooting guns at a steel target in my mom and dads basement as a kid, rock and roll concerts as a sub adult, 10 years of racing 2 stroke motocross bikes in my 20's and 52 years of street motorcycling have been very damaging to my hearing. They ring all the time, pretty loudly, 24/7/365. You kind of learn to accept/ignore it, or you would never go to sleep lol. There is no relief from the ringing...ever..well except when you are actually asleep. Then you don't hear it. Otherwise it's always there, a high pitched squeal. As I understand it from my doctor, there is no cure.

Anyhow on todays ride I experimented with ear plugs. Foam for 60 miles, and gel for 60 miles. First off, wonder if you have tinnitus? Put in ear plugs. They block out most sounds other than the ones already in your head, which are amplified as a result.

Both were easy to put in although the foam requires you to roll it between your fingers to form it into a taper, then reach over your head with the opposite hand and pull your ear canal open before inserting plug. With the gel you just roll them into a ball and mush them in there using the appropriate hand for the side.

Both did a great job of blocking out other sounds. Couldn't really hear the wind. Couldn't really hear the bike. Couldn't hardly hear my horn lol. I was on my ST and the windshield also tends to block wind sound and air pressure feel. Chewing gum sounded very..um..juicy. Wow what weird noises. Clicking my teeth together sounded like someone knocking on a door. Talking or singing out loud in my helmet was really loud...and off key a lot of times lol. Because I couldn't hear the wind or the bike rpms I found myself riding faster than normal, apparent by having to trail brake on curves I was entering too fast and wasn't used to braking on. Also by looking down at my speedo and going "Oh crap I'm way over the limit", followed by more braking.

The foam plugs hurt my ears after an hour and was glad to make the switch to gel at the 60 mile mark. The gel were much more comfortable for me. The package said they could be reused up to 40 times. Got them at Kroger grocery, they were for kid swimmers.

Have a feeling most of the time I am still not going to wear them, at least on the ST. It was a weird experience. I felt isolated from the riding experience if that makes sense. I will try them on the CB and see if there is any difference.

I would highly recommend the gel plugs to anyone who doesn't already have the damage to their ears. They are soft, comfortable, effective and reusable many times over. If I do wear earplugs again, it will be the gels.

Hi Ferret,
me too. Like you describe. I wear earplugs - foam, custom molded, and noticed on my Suzuki that sometimes they amplified the exhaust sound - was crazy and a major reason I gave that bike up. I haven't tried the gel but am going to try them now. ride safe!


RE: interesting experience...ear plugs...tinnitus - the Ferret - 02-23-2017

Nortoon..have to look for the package, I bought them awhile ago but they are like this. They clainm 22 db reduction, but they do block a lot of sound lol

http://www.cvs.com/shop/personal-care/ear-care/ear-plugs/cvs-health-children-s-silicone-earplugs-12ct-prodid-595425?skuId=595425

Longranger..just plain foolishness on my part. So you have been wearing them for 25 years and you still have bad tinnitus? My god man what were you listening to AC/DC thru head phones?


RE: interesting experience...ear plugs...tinnitus - Stichill_imp - 02-23-2017

As I kid I shot skeet and trap without ear protection, used lawn mowing equipment without ear protection, and worked in a wood shop with my dad without ear protection. As a teenager, I listened to music too loud without ear protection.

Somehow as an adult in my 20s I wised up. I have been using ear protection religiously ever since. I even wear earplugs when using a vacuum cleaner or turning on the air compressor in the garage.

I started street riding in 2012 at the age of 49. I was not prepared for the wind noise. I had ridden offroad for six years prior and took the MSF class, but my first foray onto the street scared the daylights out of me. I went two miles, turned around and came back home. I was surprised how nervous and edgy I was. Then I realized it was the noise level. I inserted ear plugs and went back out. Wow. Huge difference. The lack of extreme noise made me ride more calmly and I could hear myself think.

I used to wear the foam plugs. I would buy the premium -33dB from Amazon.

Christmas 2015 I got a pair of [url=https://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/nonoise-motorsport-noise-filter-ear-protection]NoNoise Motorsports plugs. They have a ceramic acoustic filter. Noise above a certain level creates turbulence in the filter, and cuts it off. But normal sounds like speech come through pretty well (I won't lie and say perfectly).


RE: interesting experience...ear plugs...tinnitus - LongRanger_imp - 02-23-2017

(02-23-2017, 09:44 AM)The ferret_imp Wrote: Nortoon..have to look for the package, I bought them awhile ago but they are like this. They clainm 22 db reduction, but they do block a lot of sound lol

http://www.cvs.com/shop/personal-care/ear-care/ear-plugs/cvs-health-children-s-silicone-earplugs-12ct-prodid-595425?skuId=595425

Longranger..just plain foolishness on my part. So you have been wearing them for 25 years and you still have bad tinnitus? My god man what were you listening to AC/DC thru head phones?
I never wore earplugs when I raced MX as a kid (who knew?) or when riding street bikes in my teens and '20's. I remember installing a Shoei fairing on my '78 CB750F2 back then and wondering why the wind noise suddenly seemed oppressive on the freeway. I had no clue it would damage my hearing, and of course, did nothing about it.

The other source of my tinnitus is from playing drums since the age of 10. I played in front of a lot of Marshall amps for a lot of years. Very damaging.

So, wearing earplugs for the past 25 years has probably slowed the deterioration, but hearing loss is cumulative and each time I go for a ride it gets worse, despite what I shove in there.


RE: interesting experience...ear plugs...tinnitus - crutch_imp - 02-23-2017

I developed tinnitus following brain surgery to relive pressure from hycrocephalus. Fortunately it's in the right ear only. Very loud, considered severing the nerves in that ear entirely, voluntary deafening. Finally got used to it after not sleeping for a week. Amazing how the brain can adapt.
I use foam earplugs, but agree that they become uncomfortable after an hour or so. I did find some rather skinny ones that someone suggested at this site. Any ear plug helps with the outside noise, but just amplifies the inside noise. Just have to tune it out.
Was interested to hear about the wax earplugs, will give them a try.
My doc also says I have very narrow ear canals, might try having some custom plugs made, didn't know they existed until just reading this thread.
thanks for the info.
crutch