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Is there a name for when a bike doesn't want to go into first? - postoak_imp - 05-23-2020

I've heard of false neutrals, which I assume means you put the bike into neutral and then it slips back into first, but is there a name for the opposite -- where you can't get the bike into first from neutral without rocking the bike or letting out on the clutch and then putting it back in?


RE: Is there a name for when a bike doesn't want to go into first? - Lord Popgun - 05-23-2020

Its called normal operation. Due to the way the transmission works.


RE: Is there a name for when a bike doesn't want to go into first? - the Ferret - 05-23-2020

Poastoak is this obn a CB or on your FJR?. Are you down shifting while you are moving..... or trying to downshift multiple times once you've stopped?
Are you seeing a dash --- in the instruments? (if it's on the CB?)

There are really no false neutrals btw, only shifting errors.


RE: Is there a name for when a bike doesn't want to go into first? - Bheezy27403_imp - 05-23-2020

I always thought a false neutral was when you are rowing through gears (up typically) and went in to neutral between gears on a shift. Happens to me occasionally on my Triumph. The Ferret is correct, mine usually occur due to a lazy foot.


RE: Is there a name for when a bike doesn't want to go into first? - postoak_imp - 05-24-2020

I never had this problem on any of my three Hondas. It occurs with some frequency on my Yamaha, and I'm shifting exactly the same. If Honda made a sport tourer in the 650 pound range I'd be sorely tempted.


RE: Is there a name for when a bike doesn't want to go into first? - the Ferret - 05-24-2020

There is an adjustment on the shift linkage. 2 nuts and a rod. One of the nuts is left handed. Loosen the two nuts and twist the rod until the lever moves up 1/4" and then tighten the nuts.

Are you wearing the same boots all the time?


RE: Is there a name for when a bike doesn't want to go into first? - postoak_imp - 05-24-2020

Thanks, I never thought of an adjustment. I'll look into it. All different kinds of footwear -- no consistency there.


RE: Is there a name for when a bike doesn't want to go into first? - Gone in 60 - 05-26-2020

Occasionally I've had trouble going all the way down to 1 if I come to a stop without downshifting, then quickly try to click down to 1 after a stop. When it happens, I just release the clutch, squeeze again and it drops in. I try to downshift while still moving to avoid the problem.