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RE: CTX1300 - ingobohn_imp - 11-22-2013
I must admit that I am not so into such kinda bikes like the Valkyrie, but I am a bit puzzled now. What is the difference between the F6B and the F6C? Only the style? B = bagger, C = cruiser? The rest (engine, bodywork, ...) is the same?
RE: CTX1300 - the Ferret - 11-23-2013
If you google Honda F6c you will see pictures of the old version Valkrie which had the 1500 flat 6 motor
RE: CTX1300 - bubblerboy64_imp - 11-25-2013
I think it makes a lot of sense for Honda to release a new Valkyrie it's just a small change from the 6Fb. At least Honda is doing something with their bikes for 2014. It's not going to affect the collectibility of the Rune one bit. Looks nothing like it only similarity is the engine. Ill be looking forward to seeing these new machines in the showrooms come March.
Winter hasn't started and I've had enough already.
RE: CTX1300 - _imp - 11-25-2013
(11-25-2013, 04:05 AM)bubblerboy64_imp Wrote: I think it makes a lot of sense for Honda to release a new Valkyrie it's just a small change from the 6Fb. At least Honda is doing something with their bikes for 2014. It's not going to affect the collectibility of the Rune one bit. Looks nothing like it only similarity is the engine. Ill be looking forward to seeing these new machines in the showrooms come March.
Winter hasn't started and I've had enough already.
Yer totally off base.First off what they are calling a Valkyrie is
complete marketing.Meaning a gimmick.What they are calling
a new Valkyrie is basically the exact same model as the F6B.
Plus Honda did go public and state that with Their first and
only CUSTOM model the Rune,it would mark the end of the
Valkyrie.
I think that since the F6B was failing big time and they needed
to use whatever production machinery they had in place to
keep production from coming to a standstill,they just added some
plastic crap to make the otherwise Goldwing bagger appear like
an all new bike.However I could be wrong.
My Rune does share the same Goldwing engine { with hotter cam }
But I'm not sure about the frames except they are both aluminum.
Outside of the engine,the Rune is practically a completely different bike.
The engine doesn't even share the same number of injectors.
RE: CTX1300 - The Spaceman_imp - 11-25-2013
(11-22-2013, 02:15 PM)_imp Wrote:(11-22-2013, 01:59 PM)Lunatic Fringe_imp Wrote: I'll stay out of the great transmission debate and actually discuss the ctx1300 by saying I like it. The ctx is the sort of cruiser that honda should have been making instead of going over the vtx1300/1800 cliff. LED lighting, luggage, tunes, shaft drive, smooth proven v-4 and most importantly not a trace of traditional cruiser styling. I definately want to check one out up close and personal. Honda has really been cranking out the bikes this year. The new Valkyrie looks absolutely decadent.
I take it you mean the F6B.Dammit to hell.I just checked the
Honda site and they did it.son-of-a-cuss.The Rune was supposed to
be the LAST of the Valkyrie.That was a small selling point.
I traded my Honda Valkyrie Tourer model on the new Rune in
2003.It was a 2004 model than came out in summer of 2003.
Now they went and did it.Came back with a New Valkyrie model.
I'm not a spoiler but I hope it doesn't sell.Just because Honda
betrayed all Rune buyers.Honda declared the Rune as the Last of
the Valkyrie line.I'm gonna give Honda of Japan a good piece of my mind,is what.I Have the only Rune in my neck of Kentucky.In fact the
dealer that sold me my CB 1100 { Louisville } never got a Rune.
Would you say that Honda Runed your plans?
RE: CTX1300 - bubblerboy64_imp - 11-25-2013
Please explain to me how my opinion is "totally off base" when it's supported by the fact that Honda is producing the bike? Just because you don't happen to agree with me is no reason to disrespect my position.
I understand your being sore at Honda but I've got no dog in the fight other then I like the fact that they are offering a choice.
I agree that there isn't a lot of difference between the Wing derivatives but better then NONE. It makes complete sense for Honda to "use" what they have to better their market share. Tell me a motorcycle manufacturer who doesn't do exactly what Honda is doing.
If you want a totally custom bike you have to buy one. Even the Rune is not a custom bike all be it it's as close as any one that I can think of.
Honda saying they would not make another Valkyrie and then doing so is between you and Honda but frankly do you think they care? And does it matter? I don't think so but that's my opinion and I'm sticking with it regardless
RE: CTX1300 - The Spaceman_imp - 11-25-2013
Did Honda really say they'd NEVER produce another Valkyrie? I googled it but couldn't find anything. However, there were some interesting posts; apparently a lot of people have been expecting this for some time. Here's one from 2009 about making a new Valk based on the GW:
http://www.valkyrieforum.com/bbs/index.php?topic=9950.0
If you look at it long enough, you can see some Rune design elements in the new Valkyrie. Obviously nothing as radical as the Rune was, but the same long, low look with the big-ass motor and deep seat etc. I guess it would have to look a little like it since they're based on the same, quite unique engine and drive train.
RE: CTX1300 - Lunatic Fringe_imp - 12-13-2013
I don't understand the idea that the Valkyrie is not far off from the f6b. The valk is something totally different as it's lighter, the brakes aren't linked, obviously no bags/fairing, pegs are higher and the front wheel is larger. I think the current 1800 is a worthy engine to be put into a power cruiser style bike. There is no need for honda to recreate the old chrome encrusted 1500 valkyrie style. It's a new day and I like the new valk.
RE: CTX1300 - thumper_imp - 12-14-2013
(11-25-2013, 05:13 AM)_imp Wrote:(11-25-2013, 04:05 AM)bubblerboy64_imp Wrote: I think it makes a lot of sense for Honda to release a new Valkyrie it's just a small change from the 6Fb. At least Honda is doing something with their bikes for 2014. It's not going to affect the collectibility of the Rune one bit. Looks nothing like it only similarity is the engine. Ill be looking forward to seeing these new machines in the showrooms come March.
Winter hasn't started and I've had enough already.
Yer totally off base.First off what they are calling a Valkyrie is
complete marketing.Meaning a gimmick.What they are calling
a new Valkyrie is basically the exact same model as the F6B.
Plus Honda did go public and state that with Their first and
only CUSTOM model the Rune,it would mark the end of the
Valkyrie.
I think that since the F6B was failing big time and they needed
to use whatever production machinery they had in place to
keep production from coming to a standstill,they just added some
plastic crap to make the otherwise Goldwing bagger appear like
an all new bike.However I could be wrong.
My Rune does share the same Goldwing engine { with hotter cam }
But I'm not sure about the frames except they are both aluminum.
Outside of the engine,the Rune is practically a completely different bike.
The engine doesn't even share the same number of injectors.
Of course it's "marketing." Honda is in the business to make money by selling products. Honda's marketing people are part of the process that makes that happen. So Honda tweaked the Goldwing into the F6B, and then tweaked it a little more for the Valkyrie. I'm guessing their marketing people have done research, which suggests the new Valkyrie will sell. Sometimes that research is right (Grom) and sometimes it's wrong (VFR1200F).
It's their company, and it's their money. So they can do what they want with it. If we (the customers) don't like what Honda offers us, then they'll soon know about it as those bikes gather dust on showroom floors.
We don't get to dictate what Honda builds, or what Honda names their products. But, we do get to vote with our money. I'm guessing you'll be one "No" vote for the new Valkyrie (it's not for me either).
RE: CTX1300 - bubblerboy64_imp - 12-21-2013
Some of this can't be debated much until the bikes hit the dealerships in March or April. I am just glad that Honda is introducing some new stuff for us to "evaluate". I may or may not be buying. More likely not but I am glad to see something that at least makes the blood run warmer.