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RE: A smaller, lighter, nimble stable mate to the CB? - rboe - 01-07-2015
Endures moved to Dual Sport (I have the dual sport 650L); I wonder if better roads contributed to that?
Now we have these big SUV type Adventure bikes. Meh. But, they do make darn good touring bikes; ignoring the "dirt" aspect of them.
RE: A smaller, lighter, nimble stable mate to the CB? - the_undecider_imp - 01-07-2015
(01-07-2015, 12:31 PM)Rboe_imp Wrote: Endures moved to Dual Sport (I have the dual sport 650L); I wonder if better roads contributed to that?
Now we have these big SUV type Adventure bikes. Meh. But, they do make darn good touring bikes; ignoring the "dirt" aspect of them.
That's exactly why I sold my V-strom 650. It had gotten "meh" on me. It made a great touring bike because it was big and comfy, but I wanted a smaller, lighter bike. I ended up with a heavier bike with the CB, and now I still want a smaller, lighter bike. Go figure!
Settling on what I want that bike to be able to do has been difficult. As my username suggest, decisions aren't my strong suit.
RE: A smaller, lighter, nimble stable mate to the CB? - rboe - 01-08-2015
I took a very very short ride on a 650 V strom,, big was not a word I'd use, I thought it was a small Quota (Moto Guzzi I had earlier). The Quota was a big bike.
RE: A smaller, lighter, nimble stable mate to the CB? - the_undecider_imp - 01-08-2015
(01-08-2015, 07:57 AM)Rboe_imp Wrote: I took a very very short ride on a 650 V strom,, big was not a word I'd use, I thought it was a small Quota (Moto Guzzi I had earlier). The Quota was a big bike.
Bulky tank plastics and tall riding position make it feel bigger than it is. I ran either a 46L top case or big side cases which didn't help it feel more compact. They're actually not terribly heavy for what they are. It just doesn't feel racy.
RE: A smaller, lighter, nimble stable mate to the CB? - the Ferret - 01-08-2015
I think a dressed 650 Wee Strom seems like a very big bike for the reasons you mentioned, just like the new Honda Valkrie seems like a cargo ship compared to the original one, like a B King seems so much larger than a Hyabusa. Not necessarily large bikes but the plastic around them make them seem so when you are sitting on them. My buddys Versys with the Givi Saddlebags and trunk was the same way, just all out of proportion to their motor size would suggest.
RE: A smaller, lighter, nimble stable mate to the CB? - ride4now_imp - 01-08-2015
(01-05-2015, 12:22 AM)the_undecider_imp Wrote: I went and looked at a 2011 KLR650 on Saturday and I am thinking about going back to test ride and see if they'll offer me enough for my supermoto. Allegedly, one of the guys that works at this place wants a 250cc sumo. That may be a tactic to get me back in there with my trade. I was in the biz, so I know how it works. If the deal isn't right, it isn't right. I may just buy it outright if the trade doesn't work out. Hate to have that much clutter...cross that bridge later.
I still feel like I ought to test ride a Versys, but I wanted a KLR before I bought the sumo. I also miss blasting dirt roads, something the Versys is less adept doing. I figure the KLR will hold me over until Yamaha builds me the FZ07 based adventure bike. I went and looked at the FZ07 again and the ergos just don't work. I also don't want to spend $7k on a bike and then wind up throwing another $2k farkling it. The used KLR already has most of the stuff I would do to it, so I'm way ahead. Whatever I buy will be well farkled or cheap enough for me to spend a few bucks setting it up.
As a KLR owner, I might have to agree with Rboe if you're planning on doing any real dirt riding, unless it's mainly forest roads or just plain dirt roads. The bike is heavy...around 430 lbs. I'm kind of sorry when I bought mine that I didn't seriously consider a Suzuki DRZ400-S. It weighs about 300 lbs...quite a bit lighter. However, you probably wouldn't want to ride that bike any distance on the highway either where you could do an Ironbutt ride on the KLR.
RE: A smaller, lighter, nimble stable mate to the CB? - the_undecider_imp - 01-08-2015
(01-08-2015, 01:32 PM)ride4now_imp Wrote:(01-05-2015, 12:22 AM)the_undecider_imp Wrote: I went and looked at a 2011 KLR650 on Saturday and I am thinking about going back to test ride and see if they'll offer me enough for my supermoto. Allegedly, one of the guys that works at this place wants a 250cc sumo. That may be a tactic to get me back in there with my trade. I was in the biz, so I know how it works. If the deal isn't right, it isn't right. I may just buy it outright if the trade doesn't work out. Hate to have that much clutter...cross that bridge later.
I still feel like I ought to test ride a Versys, but I wanted a KLR before I bought the sumo. I also miss blasting dirt roads, something the Versys is less adept doing. I figure the KLR will hold me over until Yamaha builds me the FZ07 based adventure bike. I went and looked at the FZ07 again and the ergos just don't work. I also don't want to spend $7k on a bike and then wind up throwing another $2k farkling it. The used KLR already has most of the stuff I would do to it, so I'm way ahead. Whatever I buy will be well farkled or cheap enough for me to spend a few bucks setting it up.
As a KLR owner, I might have to agree with Rboe if you're planning on doing any real dirt riding, unless it's mainly forest roads or just plain dirt roads. The bike is heavy...around 430 lbs. I'm kind of sorry when I bought mine that I didn't seriously consider a Suzuki DRZ400-S. It weighs about 300 lbs...quite a bit lighter. However, you probably wouldn't want to ride that bike any distance on the highway either where you could do an Ironbutt ride on the KLR.
As a KLR owner, I might have to agree with Rboe if you're planning on doing any real dirt riding, unless it's mainly forest roads or just plain dirt roads. The bike is heavy...around 430 lbs. I'm kind of sorry when I bought mine that I didn't seriously consider a Suzuki DRZ400-S. It weighs about 300 lbs...quite a bit lighter. However, you probably wouldn't want to ride that bike any distance on the highway either where you could do an Ironbutt ride on the KLR.
Just dirt roads for me. I've done some pretty knarly stuff on my 91 KLR including a bunch of 4x4 roads in SW Colorado. The worst was Black Bear Pass descending into Telluride. Here's a clip of someone on a 250 going down the "steps" which is the most technical part:
http://youtu.be/891qg5sdlxw
I went down with with the with engine off and in gear so I could use the clutch to modulate rear speed without needing to use my right foot. The aluminum skid plate earned it's keep that day. Below the steps are a series of tight switchbacks, though no trouble for a motorcycle. Problem was,my group got stuck behind a massive group of 4x4 and they all had to make 3 point turns to get around the bend. A thunderstorm had rolled in, so I was not particularly happy as a sitting duck while lightning blasted the side of the mountain.
I think the Versys would work nearly as well for the occasional dirt road, especially with the right tires. I've seen some decent looking Versyses for not much money.
The 2011 KLR I was looking at sold later that day I found out, rather they took a deposit. I am not holding my breath it'll fall through, and I will have more time to look around and figure out what I want and get a good deal.
RE: A smaller, lighter, nimble stable mate to the CB? - rboe - 01-09-2015
Ufdah! I'll take a CT110 please......
RE: A smaller, lighter, nimble stable mate to the CB? - redbirds_imp - 01-09-2015
Ducati Scrambler. Light weight, low seat height, dual purpose tires and a strong proven motor. Checks all the boxes.
I don't think of the wee-strom as a large bike. My wife's Strom feels small and light to me, especially compared to my CB1100. And I'm a small guy with a 28" inseam.
RE: A smaller, lighter, nimble stable mate to the CB? - DGShannon_imp - 01-10-2015
(01-09-2015, 12:55 AM)redbirds_imp Wrote: Ducati Scrambler. Light weight, low seat height, dual purpose tires and a strong proven motor. Checks all the boxes.
I don't think of the wee-strom as a large bike. My wife's Strom feels small and light to me, especially compared to my CB1100. And I'm a small guy with a 28" inseam.
Have to say that I was surprised, and impressed, by the off-road capability reflected here...