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RE: 2017 cb1100 - the Ferret - 02-07-2016
To be clear, I said if I were designing the perfect bike for ME..it would have shaft drive. I never said nor implied I thought the CB1100 should have shaft drive. Chain drive is how the CB1100 SHOULD be (Although a shaft drive version of this bike, with hydraulic valves, a 6 gallon gas tank, a small factory fairing, factory hard removable side bags and a luggage rack would be awesome)
and if you put a lot of miles on a bike, then the true advantage of a shaft shows itself. I have 67,000 miles on my ST with shaft and all it has cost me is 5.2 oz of 80 wt rear end oil once a year ($14 over an 8 year span and there's enough left in the bottle for 3 more years). You never know the shaft drive is back there, and you never have to think about it....no jacking, no handling issues, no noise and if it robs horsepower you never feel it. You don't have to carry adjustment tools or a can of lube on a trip, and you don't have to check adjustment or lube it at the end of a 500 mile day that included riding in some rain. If the ST were a chain drive bike, at 67,000 miles I would be on my 3rd set of chains and sprockets at $250 per set plus labor (unless I did the work myself), plus a bunch of adjustments, lubings, chain cleanings and rear wheel cleanings.
In one and half years I an 2/3 of the way thru a set of chain and sprockets on my CB. By the end of this summer I should be ready for a set.
Like I said all systems have their pluses and minuses.
RE: 2017 cb1100 - Nemo_imp - 02-07-2016
(02-05-2016, 01:49 PM)BestStandard_imp Wrote: It will be a CL1100 Scrambler!!!
http://www.therideadvice.com/image-2/?image_path=http://www.therideadvice.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Honda-CB1100-Scrambler-004%2Ejpg
Actually, I think Honda already gave us a glimpse of the 2017 model with the 2016 yellow concept. It will probably be very similar, but the color schemes may vary. My guess is the engine will be unchanged since it already received a major update in 2014 with the 6 speed tranny, engine cases, etc. It would be unusual for Honda to make changes like that for just one model year.
I'd dig that!!
RE: 2017 cb1100 - Riko_imp - 02-07-2016
(02-07-2016, 10:36 PM)The ferret_imp Wrote: To be clear, I said if I were designing the perfect bike for ME..it would have shaft drive. I never said nor implied I thought the CB1100 should have shaft drive. Chain drive is how the CB1100 SHOULD be (Although a shaft drive version of this bike, with hydraulic valves, a 6 gallon gas tank, a small factory fairing, factory hard removable side bags and a luggage rack would be awesome)
and if you put a lot of miles on a bike, then the true advantage of a shaft shows itself. I have 67,000 miles on my ST with shaft and all it has cost me is 5.2 oz of 80 wt rear end oil once a year ($14 over an 8 year span and there's enough left in the bottle for 3 more years). You never know the shaft drive is back there, and you never have to think about it....no jacking, no handling issues, no noise and if it robs horsepower you never feel it. You don't have to carry adjustment tools or a can of lube on a trip, and you don't have to check adjustment or lube it at the end of a 500 mile day that included riding in some rain. If the ST were a chain drive bike, at 67,000 miles I would be on my 3rd set of chains and sprockets at $250 per set plus labor (unless I did the work myself), plus a bunch of adjustments, lubings, chain cleanings and rear wheel cleanings.
In one and half years I an 2/3 of the way thru a set of chain and sprockets on my CB. By the end of this summer I should be ready for a set.
Like I said all systems have their pluses and minuses.
Couldn't have envisioned it better
But if all that makes for a ugly bike or a bike that doesn't make the same awesome first impression the current bike makes now, I would happily give up all those things.
RE: 2017 cb1100 - ride4now_imp - 02-08-2016
I've never had a shaft drive, but I've had a few belt drives and they've yet to cost me a single cent in repair or maintenance. I'd vote for a belt... BUT if the bike is truly considered 'retro' then a chain is really the only way to go. Plus, let's be real here... while you can tour on it, it's not designed for that purpose.
RE: 2017 cb1100 - the Ferret - 02-08-2016
As noted in another post, Honda once made a chain drive car, but since the late 60s I'd venture to guess they have all been shaft drive... for a reason lol
RE: 2017 cb1100 - gossman_imp - 02-08-2016
(02-07-2016, 10:36 PM)The ferret_imp Wrote: To be clear, I said if I were designing the perfect bike for ME..it would have shaft drive. I never said nor implied I thought the CB1100 should have shaft drive. Chain drive is how the CB1100 SHOULD be (Although a shaft drive version of this bike, with hydraulic valves, a 6 gallon gas tank, a small factory fairing, factory hard removable side bags and a luggage rack would be awesome)
and if you put a lot of miles on a bike, then the true advantage of a shaft shows itself. I have 67,000 miles on my ST with shaft and all it has cost me is 5.2 oz of 80 wt rear end oil once a year ($14 over an 8 year span and there's enough left in the bottle for 3 more years). You never know the shaft drive is back there, and you never have to think about it....no jacking, no handling issues, no noise and if it robs horsepower you never feel it. You don't have to carry adjustment tools or a can of lube on a trip, and you don't have to check adjustment or lube it at the end of a 500 mile day that included riding in some rain. If the ST were a chain drive bike, at 67,000 miles I would be on my 3rd set of chains and sprockets at $250 per set plus labor (unless I did the work myself), plus a bunch of adjustments, lubings, chain cleanings and rear wheel cleanings.
In one and half years I an 2/3 of the way thru a set of chain and sprockets on my CB. By the end of this summer I should be ready for a set.
Like I said all systems have their pluses and minuses.
They would have to jack up the total carry weight from the puny <400lbs it has now. Other than that, it would be a sweet cruiser set up that way especially because of the hydraulic valves.
RE: 2017 cb1100 - Greg Davis_imp - 02-09-2016
(02-07-2016, 10:36 PM)The ferret_imp Wrote: To be clear, I said if I were designing the perfect bike for ME..it would have shaft drive. I never said nor implied I thought the CB1100 should have shaft drive. Chain drive is how the CB1100 SHOULD be (Although a shaft drive version of this bike, with hydraulic valves, a 6 gallon gas tank, a small factory fairing, factory hard removable side bags and a luggage rack would be awesome)
and if you put a lot of miles on a bike, then the true advantage of a shaft shows itself. I have 67,000 miles on my ST with shaft and all it has cost me is 5.2 oz of 80 wt rear end oil once a year ($14 over an 8 year span and there's enough left in the bottle for 3 more years). You never know the shaft drive is back there, and you never have to think about it....no jacking, no handling issues, no noise and if it robs horsepower you never feel it. You don't have to carry adjustment tools or a can of lube on a trip, and you don't have to check adjustment or lube it at the end of a 500 mile day that included riding in some rain. If the ST were a chain drive bike, at 67,000 miles I would be on my 3rd set of chains and sprockets at $250 per set plus labor (unless I did the work myself), plus a bunch of adjustments, lubings, chain cleanings and rear wheel cleanings.
In one and half years I an 2/3 of the way thru a set of chain and sprockets on my CB. By the end of this summer I should be ready for a set.
Like I said all systems have their pluses and minuses.
This is what it's all about. we each like different things. I bought my CB because I liked the looks of it. ( would loved to have had spokes and 4 into 2 pipes) I will sacrifice some technical features for looks. i.e. shaft, big tank, etc. There are other models with shaft dirve and bigger tanks and removable bags. Everyone is different.
RE: 2017 cb1100 - NightRider_imp - 02-09-2016
Agree. The CB1100 is a retro bike. Hard to imagine a large retro CB750 inspired bike if it had shaft drive. Besides, cost and weight is higher with shaft drives.
RE: 2017 cb1100 - Riko_imp - 02-09-2016
BMW RNineT
RE: 2017 cb1100 - dirt road_imp - 02-10-2016
Chains arent all that bad , but I would love to park a new VFR1200 ...with shaft drive....in the garage next to my CB1100.