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RE: 17" Wheel Conversion - Rebel73_imp - 03-01-2016
Looks like an auxiliary port for charging phones and stuff.
RE: 17" Wheel Conversion - CIP57_imp - 03-01-2016
The OP is going in the right direction if money is no object. The CB is one of the most neutral UJM's I have ever ridden but the stock tires ****. Just going to a set of Michelin's PR3's was a huge improvement. Going to 17" rims opens the door to take advantage of modern technology of today's tires. A set of PP3's would make a world of difference tightening up the suspension & lowering the center of gravity. I have seen a set of 17's on a few Japan sites, just get ready to open your wallet. 2K + for the conversion.
RE: 17" Wheel Conversion - Nemo_imp - 03-01-2016
(02-04-2015, 01:56 PM)mjezek_imp Wrote: Sorry, I could not resist ...
If you guys are interested, I could give you a simple rundown on some basics regarding bike geometry, riding position and suspension.
As a teaser, every wondered why a motorcycle turns, despite the front wheel is perfectly straight ( looking at all those cool knee dragging shots in magazines or on your computer ... ?)
(02-04-2015, 01:54 PM)Motogeezer1949_imp Wrote: IMO, the stock rubber probably surpasses the ability of the bike and 95% of its riders, even at a track day. And I've done a lot of track days on totally stock street bikesCheck out the cover photo on my personal FaceBook page under my name: James Lucia.
1000% agreed considering riding on public roads and no matter what skill level
I have never wondered before because we've been doing it since we were kids, so the answer was "because that's how it works". However, now that you ask I wouldn't mind the explanation because I don't know.
RE: 17" Wheel Conversion - curlyjoe_imp - 03-02-2016
(03-01-2016, 11:33 PM)Nemo_imp Wrote:(02-04-2015, 01:56 PM)mjezek_imp Wrote: Sorry, I could not resist ...
If you guys are interested, I could give you a simple rundown on some basics regarding bike geometry, riding position and suspension.
As a teaser, every wondered why a motorcycle turns, despite the front wheel is perfectly straight ( looking at all those cool knee dragging shots in magazines or on your computer ... ?)
(02-04-2015, 01:54 PM)Motogeezer1949_imp Wrote: IMO, the stock rubber probably surpasses the ability of the bike and 95% of its riders, even at a track day. And I've done a lot of track days on totally stock street bikes
1000% agreed considering riding on public roads and no matter what skill level
I have never wondered before because we've been doing it since we were kids, so the answer was "because that's how it works". However, now that you ask I wouldn't mind the explanation because I don't know.
I have never wondered before because we've been doing it since we were kids, so the answer was "because that's how it works". However, now that you ask I wouldn't mind the explanation because I don't know.
This helped me at least partially understand. [url=http://genjac.com/BoomerBiker/Two%20Wheeled%20Physics.htm]Two wheeled physics
RE: 17" Wheel Conversion - Lord Popgun - 03-02-2016
(03-01-2016, 11:33 PM)Nemo_imp Wrote:(02-04-2015, 01:56 PM)mjezek_imp Wrote: Sorry, I could not resist ...
If you guys are interested, I could give you a simple rundown on some basics regarding bike geometry, riding position and suspension.
As a teaser, every wondered why a motorcycle turns, despite the front wheel is perfectly straight ( looking at all those cool knee dragging shots in magazines or on your computer ... ?)
(02-04-2015, 01:54 PM)Motogeezer1949_imp Wrote: IMO, the stock rubber probably surpasses the ability of the bike and 95% of its riders, even at a track day. And I've done a lot of track days on totally stock street bikes
1000% agreed considering riding on public roads and no matter what skill level
I have never wondered before because we've been doing it since we were kids, so the answer was "because that's how it works". However, now that you ask I wouldn't mind the explanation because I don't know.
I have never wondered before because we've been doing it since we were kids, so the answer was "because that's how it works". However, now that you ask I wouldn't mind the explanation because I don't know.
Read this about 20 times and you still may not know
: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bicycle_and_motorcycle_dynamics
RE: 17" Wheel Conversion - chync_imp - 06-08-2016
That thing on the handlebars looks like a steering damper to me. Used for racing.
I have been looking at these Kineo tubeless spoked wheels. I think they look great but sure aren't cheap. They are 17" but their kit comes with everything you need to mount wheels, sproket, brakes, etc.
http://www.bikehps.com/acatalog/Kineo-Wire-Spoked-Wheels-Honda-CB1100-2014-onwards.html
RE: 17" Wheel Conversion - kennyw - 06-08-2016
Also, just because you change a wheel to 17" from 18" doesn't necessarily mean the tire OD is smaller. You just end up using a different aspect ratio to keep the OD if you want it the same. I switched a 1982 Honda V45 Magna over to 17" wheels so I could find radials. Luckily, Honda also had made a V45 Saber in 1982 with 17" wheels that were a direct fit.
RE: 17" Wheel Conversion - chync_imp - 12-24-2017
In case anyone uses this thread for making a decision on 17" wheels I thought I would share my experience. I finally bought the 17" Kineo wheels and for anyone concerned about parts scraping easier on the smaller wheels here is why it doesn't happen (I believe).
The main reason I switched to the 17" wheels was to get some decent sport tire options. In addition to switching to a smaller diameter wheel I also went to a wider wheel. I'm now have 180's on the rear which also have a higher aspect ratio which helps turning in to corners. When the bike leans I believe the geometry of the wider and taller tire may actually compensate for any loss in ride height. All I know for sure is that I can lean the bike and use all but a quarter inch of the edge of the tire without scraping anything (I believe I could lean the bike over even further but it's clear from examining the cracks in the pavement at that lean angle I would need some leathers with knee pucks). Ok maybe a bit of exaggeration there. I have replaced the stock pegs with racing pegs that prevent them from scraping but both the muffler and center stand are the next things in line to start grabbing pavement. That hasn't happened on the 17" wheels again using most of the tire. I routinely scrape my boot on the ground but never any parts of the bike.
If you like to ride sideways, even on the CB1100, the 17" wheels give you some tire options to get you closer to that goal. If you don't like riding sideways then there is certainly no risk of switching to 17" wheels and scraping anything.
RE: 17" Wheel Conversion - peterbaron - 12-24-2017
(02-04-2015, 06:37 AM)mjezek_imp Wrote:Special road surface on track should be sticky enough for available rubber in 18", considering what one could do with a CB 1100. It has just 90 hp, not over 160 hp.(02-04-2015, 06:15 AM)Django_imp Wrote:Special road surface on track should be sticky enough for available rubber in 18", considering what one could do with a CB 1100. It has just 90 hp, not over 160 hp.(02-04-2015, 05:31 AM)mjezek_imp Wrote: Searched for it and found no results ....Special road surface on track should be sticky enough for available rubber in 18", considering what one could do with a CB 1100. It has just 90 hp, not over 160 hp.
Has anyone here converted his CB with 17" wheels ?
I know it has been done in the past and I was wondering what it takes. Do I need a complete new front setup ? forks, triple clamp, ...
Which other Honda Motorcycle might be a good donor ?
One reason is, I want to ride her on the track and there is not really a lot of sticky rubber in 18" out there ....
The foot pegs and then the exhaust scratch the ground very early anyway in the curve. With 17" you could lean even less.
I don't know, if this is a good idea.
The foot pegs and then the exhaust scratch the ground very early anyway in the curve. With 17" you could lean even less.
I don't know, if this is a good idea.
I respect your opinion .... let's leave it like that ....
The foot pegs and then the exhaust scratch the ground very early anyway in the curve. With 17" you could lean even less.
I don't know, if this is a good idea.
I respect your opinion .... let's leave it like that ....
+1...use brain when modifying
pb