(12-20-2019, 01:55 PM)Bheezy27403_imp Wrote:

(12-20-2019, 11:48 AM)Flynrider_imp Wrote:

(12-20-2019, 10:37 AM)Chuckk_imp Wrote:

(12-19-2019, 11:03 PM)Stichill_imp Wrote: Wow, some these photos from the Honda Japan site are stunning, Cormanus. Thanks for the heads-up!

CB1300








VFR800F










CB400

I wonder what kind of horsepower that water cooled 1300 puts out

Honda claims 109 hp for the 1300 (which is usually measured at the crank). About 20 more ponies than the CB1100.

I'm sure they could squeeze a lot more out of it, but Honda tends to detune the engines on their non-sportbikes to achieve a nice linear powerband.

(12-20-2019, 11:34 AM)Bheezy27403_imp Wrote: 114 HP for the 1300.

(12-20-2019, 10:34 AM)Ole_imp Wrote: oh my
that 400 is so sweet

bring it Honda words are cheap but I would buy one at full retail

I'll buy 2 just to sweeten the pot.

I'll buy 2 just to sweeten the pot.
I send American Honda an email at least once a year, explaining how the CB400SF would be a huge hit in North America (like it has been elsewhere for 28 years). They quit replying to me about 10 years ago.

Honda claims 109 hp for the 1300 (which is usually measured at the crank). About 20 more ponies than the CB1100.

I'm sure they could squeeze a lot more out of it, but Honda tends to detune the engines on their non-sportbikes to achieve a nice linear powerband.

(12-20-2019, 11:34 AM)Bheezy27403_imp Wrote: 114 HP for the 1300.

(12-20-2019, 10:34 AM)Ole_imp Wrote: oh my
that 400 is so sweet

bring it Honda words are cheap but I would buy one at full retail

I'll buy 2 just to sweeten the pot.

I'll buy 2 just to sweeten the pot.
I send American Honda an email at least once a year, explaining how the CB400SF would be a huge hit in North America (like it has been elsewhere for 28 years). They quit replying to me about 10 years ago.
I pray that this will be a Andy Dufresne outcome in Shawshank Redemption when eventually they just give in! Perhaps I will start a yearly email.

(12-20-2019, 11:34 AM)Bheezy27403_imp Wrote: 114 HP for the 1300.

(12-20-2019, 10:34 AM)Ole_imp Wrote: oh my
that 400 is so sweet

bring it Honda words are cheap but I would buy one at full retail

I'll buy 2 just to sweeten the pot.

(12-22-2019, 08:18 AM)pekingduck_imp Wrote: With motorcycle sales stagnant at best, it's hard to introduce any new models that don't have a guaranteed market. The 1300 and 400 four cylinders are of course more expensive to manufacture and so, harder to sell. The VFR has a small niche for the same reason, with its market shrunken by adventurer-tourers in the US. We're talking a couple hundred US sales per year.

Adventure bikes have put fire in the market the way SUVs and "Cross-overs" have made station wagons acceptable again. And mountain bikes resurrected bicycling starting in the '90s. I think the same needs to happen with scooters.

The Ruckus 50 was a great selling model but under-powered, and would be a giant hit with a 150cc or 250cc engine. (The old 250 Big Ruckus was just a styling and pricing disaster).

I think the ADV 150 scooter would be a big step in the right direction - a more robust looking scooter a guy wouldn't feel embarrassed on, even without any real off-road potential. The industry needs more new riders, and scooters may be a big part of the answer.

(12-22-2019, 10:30 AM)peterbaron_imp Wrote: Let me whisper to Honda's ear: bring 2020 CB 1300cc & 400cc to Canada and US to reach your 1/2 billionth faster .
Let me know if someone says no

(12-22-2019, 10:33 AM)GoldOxide_imp Wrote: Sounds like you would ante up for the 400 and 1300?

Wha 'bout the CBX wet dream PB?

(12-22-2019, 10:30 AM)peterbaron_imp Wrote: Let me whisper to Honda's ear: bring 2020 CB 1300cc & 400cc to Canada and US to reach your 1/2 billionth faster .
Let me know if someone says no