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RE: Engine quit at stop light - Lord Popgun - 07-28-2015
Ferret,
Just FYI. I sent him a PM last night but never heard back. I was going to send him some manual info. Still will if he wants it.
AND your catalog is supposed to be delivered today according to the USPS tracking!
RE: Engine quit at stop light - Cormanus - 07-28-2015
Popgun, I know you expect me to be ignorant, so what on earth is a "MIL blink pattern"?
RE: Engine quit at stop light - Lord Popgun - 07-28-2015
Malfunction Indicator Light.
If you don't have the Honda diagnostic code reader (and who does but the dealer) then you can force the code to display by flashing the check engine light (the MIL).
It would then flash something like one long and 2 short for 12. I don't have the manual in front of me right now so I can't tell you how to force it, or the exact sequence of flashes, but that is the jist of it. Then you look on the table and see what fault is being displayed, or "thrown" as some people say.
Usually without a code reader you just jumper some pins on the DTC connector (the red one that in your case, and mine, the GI Pro is plugged into) and the sequence will start. It is in the Service manual and I can send it to you if you want.
Engine quit at stop light - Cormanus - 07-28-2015
Thanks. No need for the codes at the moment. I just wondered what it was. Makes sense.
My car mechanic has a universal code reader that he plugs into the car every now and again. Surely you can get them for bikes.
RE: Engine quit at stop light - Lord Popgun - 07-29-2015
Cormanus, I do not know if you can or not. For outboards, the manufactures are all pretty much proprietary with their diagnostic machines. I THINK bikes are the same. Maybe someone more knowledgeable can chime in.
Some few years ago, my Honda outboard dealer said the Honda diagnostic tool was EXPENSIVE.
Cars usually have ODBC II and you are right in that you can get scanners just about anywhere, but usually have a provision to read the codes by flashing too.
RE: Engine quit at stop light - silverbub_imp - 07-29-2015
(07-28-2015, 09:55 PM)Lord Popgun_imp Wrote: Ferret,Just to complete the "FYI"...I sent you, Popgun, a PM just now stating that I was only trying to provide the OP of this thread that perhaps he should find out what error code was "thrown" when his bike quit at stop sign/light...I was not asking for the code translation sheet... thanks for additional dialogue, though, as I find it useful!... Brings up the question, though, as to whether ALL makes of bikes with FI use the same code numeric sheets & translations??...
Just FYI. I sent him a PM last night but never heard back. I was going to send him some manual info. Still will if he wants it.
AND your catalog is supposed to be delivered today according to the USPS tracking!
Inquiring mind would like to know... from way up in the observation deck... certainly, for me,... not on the "game-floor"!
RE: Engine quit at stop light - Lord Popgun - 07-29-2015
Silverbub, yeah I got confused. Reading is supposed to be FUNdamental
I doubt all bike have the same codes, but I have an ST1300. I could compare the ST manual with the CB's manual and see if they are the same. But I would imagine that they are all different as there are different systems on bikes, and most likely different computers. We know that is true as the part numbers are different.
RE: Engine quit at stop light - silverbub_imp - 07-29-2015
(07-29-2015, 03:50 AM)Lord Popgun_imp Wrote: Silverbub, yeah I got confused. Reading is supposed to be FUNdamentalYeah, makes sense to me,... Too much to expect "standardization"...
I doubt all bike have the same codes, but I have an ST1300. I could compare the ST manual with the CB's manual and see if they are the same. But I would imagine that they are all different as there are different systems on bikes, and most likely different computers. We know that is true as the part numbers are different.
RE: Engine quit at stop light - flynrider - 07-29-2015
(07-29-2015, 12:06 AM)Lord Popgun_imp Wrote: Cormanus, I do not know if you can or not. For outboards, the manufactures are all pretty much proprietary with their diagnostic machines. I THINK bikes are the same. Maybe someone more knowledgeable can chime in.
Some few years ago, my Honda outboard dealer said the Honda diagnostic tool was EXPENSIVE.
Cars usually have ODBC II and you are right in that you can get scanners just about anywhere, but usually have a provision to read the codes by flashing too.
Yep, bikes are the same. The standard OBD II interfaces on cars are federally mandated (in the U.S.) by the D.O.T. The main reason being that they are the standard for emissions control compliance. There's no such mandate for motorcycles (yet), so most manufacturers use their own proprietary interfaces and protocols. I'm sure that one day in the not-too-distant future, motorcycles will have a (mandated) common standard too.
RE: Engine quit at stop light - sanoke_imp - 07-29-2015
It's been well over a week now and better than 700 miles and it's not done it again. I do have a shop manual and that's a great suggestion about the error codes so if it does it again I'll check it out.