Shell Rotella Snythetic 5w40 oil in CB1100

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RE: Shell Rotella Snythetic 5w40 oil in CB1100 - Ulvetanna_imp - 05-03-2016

(05-02-2016, 11:10 PM)The ferret_imp Wrote: I am quite sure Shell Rotella T will not hurt your motor. Too many people on too many forums using it with no adverse effects.

I don't care what any one eldse uses in their motorcycles, their business. Shell, Amsoil, Honda, Yamalube, oem filters, K&N filters, Bosch filters, they all have their advocates and detractors but bottom line is it's more important that it is changed on a regualr basis than what it is changed with or to. I am not personally aware of any catastrophic engine failures due to oil or oil filter types in the last 45 years.

I can tell you up until Dec 31, 2006 Honda recommended 10W40 for all of their 4 stroke motorcycle engines. As of Jan 1, 2007 Honda has recommended 10W30. Why that change of recommendation and why on that date is any body's guess. Some has said it's for emissions, or for gas mileage. Who really knows.

[url=http://smg.photobucket.com/user/theferret111/media/march31007_zpsa24bed3a.jpg.html]

All I know is that for my 2006 ST 1300 Honda recomends 10w40 and for the 2007 ST 1300 which is identical other than paint, it recommends 10w30. My 2014 CB1100 DLX they recommend 10W30. ALL Hondas since Jan 1, 2007 they say 10W30. Why? who knows. They do make allowances in the owners manual and service manual to allow 10W40.

Bottom line, I recommend that you use what you have faith in and are comfortable using.

Yep just make sure it's the correct grade and JASO-MA. If in doubt use exactly what Honda specifies.

Forgot to mention Yamaha will now provide 20 years or 100,000 miles warranty if you use only Yamalube oils. Maybe there is something to the OEM recommendations.

RE: Shell Rotella Snythetic 5w40 oil in CB1100 - NightRider_imp - 05-04-2016

This sure seems like an oil thread. I normally stay away from oil threads so I suppose it is not since nobody is talking about oil. And I am here.

Besides, we all came to the conclusion that Honda oil and oil filters were best for Hondas and that the noise most of us experience to some degree, that one found in the lower neither regions when idling, is unaffected by oil changes and different oils because it was a small miss-adjustment in the balancer remedied by a small adjustment to the balancer found here from an earlier posted link I read on the forum.

http://youtu.be/tnWHW8Z_2U8

(didn't think I was paying attention?)

RE: Shell Rotella Snythetic 5w40 oil in CB1100 - Bike #12_imp - 05-08-2016

About two years ago I posted this...

Stopped by the local shop to pick up a new oil filter. Asked about running 10W/40 weight oil in my CB. Guy at the counter said it was fine. Mentioned reason Honda changed to 10W/30 back in 2007 or so was for emissions. Just a FYI, the owners manual for my previous bike (BMW) cautioned against using synthetic oil during the first 6000 miles of use. Once I did change to synthetic, the transmission was A LOT smoother when shifting.

RE: Shell Rotella Snythetic 5w40 oil in CB1100 - LongRanger_imp - 05-08-2016

(05-03-2016, 09:51 AM)Ulvetanna_imp Wrote:
(05-02-2016, 11:10 PM)The ferret_imp Wrote: I am quite sure Shell Rotella T will not hurt your motor. Too many people on too many forums using it with no adverse effects.

I don't care what any one eldse uses in their motorcycles, their business. Shell, Amsoil, Honda, Yamalube, oem filters, K&N filters, Bosch filters, they all have their advocates and detractors but bottom line is it's more important that it is changed on a regualr basis than what it is changed with or to. I am not personally aware of any catastrophic engine failures due to oil or oil filter types in the last 45 years.

I can tell you up until Dec 31, 2006 Honda recommended 10W40 for all of their 4 stroke motorcycle engines. As of Jan 1, 2007 Honda has recommended 10W30. Why that change of recommendation and why on that date is any body's guess. Some has said it's for emissions, or for gas mileage. Who really knows.

[url=http://smg.photobucket.com/user/theferret111/media/march31007_zpsa24bed3a.jpg.html]

All I know is that for my 2006 ST 1300 Honda recomends 10w40 and for the 2007 ST 1300 which is identical other than paint, it recommends 10w30. My 2014 CB1100 DLX they recommend 10W30. ALL Hondas since Jan 1, 2007 they say 10W30. Why? who knows. They do make allowances in the owners manual and service manual to allow 10W40.

Bottom line, I recommend that you use what you have faith in and are comfortable using.
Yep just make sure it's the correct grade and JASO-MA. If in doubt use exactly what Honda specifies.

Forgot to mention Yamaha will now provide 20 years or 100,000 miles warranty if you use only Yamalube oils. Maybe there is something to the OEM recommendations.

RE: Shell Rotella Snythetic 5w40 oil in CB1100 - Ulvetanna_imp - 05-08-2016

(05-08-2016, 12:51 AM)LongRanger_imp Wrote:
(05-03-2016, 09:51 AM)Ulvetanna_imp Wrote:
(05-02-2016, 11:10 PM)The ferret_imp Wrote: I am quite sure Shell Rotella T will not hurt your motor. Too many people on too many forums using it with no adverse effects.

I don't care what any one eldse uses in their motorcycles, their business. Shell, Amsoil, Honda, Yamalube, oem filters, K&N filters, Bosch filters, they all have their advocates and detractors but bottom line is it's more important that it is changed on a regualr basis than what it is changed with or to. I am not personally aware of any catastrophic engine failures due to oil or oil filter types in the last 45 years.

I can tell you up until Dec 31, 2006 Honda recommended 10W40 for all of their 4 stroke motorcycle engines. As of Jan 1, 2007 Honda has recommended 10W30. Why that change of recommendation and why on that date is any body's guess. Some has said it's for emissions, or for gas mileage. Who really knows.

[url=http://smg.photobucket.com/user/theferret111/media/march31007_zpsa24bed3a.jpg.html]

All I know is that for my 2006 ST 1300 Honda recomends 10w40 and for the 2007 ST 1300 which is identical other than paint, it recommends 10w30. My 2014 CB1100 DLX they recommend 10W30. ALL Hondas since Jan 1, 2007 they say 10W30. Why? who knows. They do make allowances in the owners manual and service manual to allow 10W40.

Bottom line, I recommend that you use what you have faith in and are comfortable using.
Yep just make sure it's the correct grade and JASO-MA. If in doubt use exactly what Honda specifies.

Forgot to mention Yamaha will now provide 20 years or 100,000 miles warranty if you use only Yamalube oils. Maybe there is something to the OEM recommendations.
Nope, it's a money-grab and a marketing campaign, plain and simple. This tells me that engine longevity doesn't depend on oil brand. Simply follow the manufacturer's recommended maintenance schedule and you'll be fine.

It's funny that nobody agonizes over the brand of piston ring or big-end bearing in their engine, the wheel bearings in their front hub, the bolts holding their cylinder heads on, or the circlips keeping their transmission together. It's simply because oil changes are easily accessible by the consumer and the marketers know we're easily influenced and easy prey. It's the same with aftermarket exhaust systems, air filters, spark plugs, tires, clutch plates, brake levers, foot pegs, etc. We conveniently ignore the components we can't get our grubby little hands on, like critical engine internals, but we're all experts on consumables or the stuff we can tinker with. Marketing!

Nope, it's a money-grab and a marketing campaign, plain and simple. This tells me that engine longevity doesn't depend on oil brand. Simply follow the manufacturer's recommended maintenance schedule and you'll be fine.

It's funny that nobody agonizes over the brand of piston ring or big-end bearing in their engine, the wheel bearings in their front hub, the bolts holding their cylinder heads on, or the circlips keeping their transmission together. It's simply because oil changes are easily accessible by the consumer and the marketers know we're easily influenced and easy prey. It's the same with aftermarket exhaust systems, air filters, spark plugs, tires, clutch plates, brake levers, foot pegs, etc. We conveniently ignore the components we can't get our grubby little hands on, like critical engine internals, but we're all experts on consumables or the stuff we can tinker with. Marketing! I very much agree with you about guys fretting over all kinds of things like oil, filters, O2 Sensors, and the like, whilst paying zero mind to all those inaccessible components. Out of sight, out of mind.

I don't see the Yamalube Warranty as a money-grab though. Yamaha just took first and second place in the French MotoGP, so I expect they know something about performance and durability.

Secondly, the Yamalube warranty costs nothing, and the rider gets a 20-year power train warranty just by using the Yamaha product.

I was choosing Yamalube for years because of the quality; one thing a guy notices is shifting ease, and Yamalube was at the top of the heap when it comes to shifting.

Now, I realize that if a guy is shifting at 1500 RPM perhaps he wouldn't notice, but snapping quick shifts up and down at high RPM, one can tell the difference. Honda oil is the same, very good. I choose OEM oil over Motul or any of the other brands because they work well in the transmission. That's really the only indicator that's palpable. Kawasaki, Honda, Yamaha oils.

The Yamalube warranty is a cool perk and I'd have no issue signing up for it if I'd just purchased a new Yamaha. 15,000 redlining miles on my current Yamaha and a very, very clean bill of health so far. My reflash bumped the rev limiter up 500 RPM, engine seems to be loving it.

RE: Shell Rotella Snythetic 5w40 oil in CB1100 - aschem_imp - 05-10-2016

Huh

 RE: Shell Rotella Snythetic 5w40 oil in CB1100 - use2b_imp - 09-04-2016

Well I was searching the forum looking for advice on synthetic oil and wondering why Honda was not using it with an air cooled bike. much has changed since my CB750 which I use valvoline semi synthetic high mileage 10/40 . before Honda brought out thier own oil they only used castrol here at the dealership . the original CB750 even used motor oil in the front shocks but switched a few years later to any kind of transmission fluid you want and mine uses ford T- fluid.
watched a vid of an Asian guy who only runs cooking oil in his Honda Club 50

RE: Shell Rotella Snythetic 5w40 oil in CB1100 - Rolls_imp - 09-04-2016

(04-30-2016, 11:18 PM)capttwb136_imp Wrote: First of all I'm not trying to start another never ending oil thread. When I bought a Yamaha Star Warrior some years I joined the Star Warrior Forum and read about using Shell Rotella synthetic in the Warrior. Everyone seemed to agree it was a great oil for the Warrior. So I used it exclusively in the Warrior. Never had any problems or strange noises.

When I changed the break in oil on the CB1100, I had 4 qts of Suzuki 10w40 laying around and used them in the CB. I've only put about a thousand miles on it since, have had no weird noises, but read on this forum about the dangers of using 10w40 conventional oil. So I thought it prudent to put 10w30 in it.

I live in a rural area far from MC dealers and went online to order some 10w30 motorcycle oil. I discovered it isn't easy to find 10w30 motorcycle oils. Anyway I was wondering if anyone ran Shell 5w40 in their CB. If you do, do you hear those dreaded noises some guys talk about?

Having owned more than a few bikes in my time I've read quite a few oil threads and quite a lot of info about motorcycle oils. So I know 10w40 oill breaks down to 10w25 in about 1500 miles, and was just wondering what you guys thought about using Shell Rotella synthetic 5w40? It's made for diesel engines and is safe for wet clutches on motorcycles.

Walmart sells Shell Rotella and there is a Walmart ten miles from home. Any thoughts?

If difficulty finding 10W-30 online is what's leading you to alternative oils, I get Pro Honda 10W30 in handy gallon jugs from [url=https://www.jakewilson.com/p/4839/-/1114214/Pro-Honda-GN4-4-Stroke-Motor-Oil-10W-30-1-Gallon?gclid=CMO-8cKN9s4CFcSCfgodhOALMg]Jake Wilson. I order 4 at a time for free shipping. Comes out to about $5.12 per quart. I like the convenience; 5 minutes online, then the stuff is sitting on my porch a couple days later. Gallon jug is great for recycling the old oil, too.

Hope it helps!

RE: Shell Rotella Snythetic 5w40 oil in CB1100 - capttwb136_imp - 09-04-2016

(09-04-2016, 02:21 AM)Rolls_imp Wrote:
(04-30-2016, 11:18 PM)capttwb136_imp Wrote: First of all I'm not trying to start another never ending oil thread. When I bought a Yamaha Star Warrior some years I joined the Star Warrior Forum and read about using Shell Rotella synthetic in the Warrior. Everyone seemed to agree it was a great oil for the Warrior. So I used it exclusively in the Warrior. Never had any problems or strange noises.

When I changed the break in oil on the CB1100, I had 4 qts of Suzuki 10w40 laying around and used them in the CB. I've only put about a thousand miles on it since, have had no weird noises, but read on this forum about the dangers of using 10w40 conventional oil. So I thought it prudent to put 10w30 in it.

I live in a rural area far from MC dealers and went online to order some 10w30 motorcycle oil. I discovered it isn't easy to find 10w30 motorcycle oils. Anyway I was wondering if anyone ran Shell 5w40 in their CB. If you do, do you hear those dreaded noises some guys talk about?

Having owned more than a few bikes in my time I've read quite a few oil threads and quite a lot of info about motorcycle oils. So I know 10w40 oill breaks down to 10w25 in about 1500 miles, and was just wondering what you guys thought about using Shell Rotella synthetic 5w40? It's made for diesel engines and is safe for wet clutches on motorcycles.

Walmart sells Shell Rotella and there is a Walmart ten miles from home. Any thoughts?

If difficulty finding 10W-30 online is what's leading you to alternative oils, I get Pro Honda 10W30 in handy gallon jugs from [url=https://www.jakewilson.com/p/4839/-/1114214/Pro-Honda-GN4-4-Stroke-Motor-Oil-10W-30-1-Gallon?gclid=CMO-8cKN9s4CFcSCfgodhOALMg]Jake Wilson. I order 4 at a time for free shipping. Comes out to about $5.12 per quart. I like the convenience; 5 minutes online, then the stuff is sitting on my porch a couple days later. Gallon jug is great for recycling the old oil, too.

Hope it helps!