(02-14-2018, 04:00 AM)911jimmy_imp Wrote:

(02-13-2018, 10:28 PM)peterbaron_imp Wrote:

(02-13-2018, 02:34 PM)911jimmy_imp Wrote: Okay guys it sounds like you've done so much amazing work thank you so much!!

I just want to clarify a few things for those who were wondering, the motorcycle was crashed really hard on a Canyon Road, it's near $6,000 in parts later to get to this point and the gauges were destroyed ..

The original owner unfortunately threw the gauge pieces away otherwise I would have totally left that part plugged in and had it hidden under the seat.

As you can see in the photo none of that stuff exist anymore and min of $1000 more just for the stock gauges which are too bulky for the custom motodemic headlight setup..




THANK YOU CORMANUS & POP

I BELIEVE CORMANUS ANSWERED THE QUESTION, AND ITS GOOD NEWS !! THE 2013 BIKE WILL RUN WITHOuT THE GAUGE ..

SO NEXT STEP IS GETTING THE 2013 WIRING AND ECU AND WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET IT GOING ..

*POP*
ALSO WANTED TO NOTE THE KOSO GAUGE HAS ITS OWN SPEED SENSOR & WIRING THAT WEVE INSTALLED ON THE FRONT BRAKES INDEPENDENT OF ECU

I WILL UPDATE AS THIS GETS DONE AND FIGURE OUT HOW TO POST THE BETTER PICTURES , BECAUSE THE BIKE CAME OUT SO NICE ...

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NOT so fast..

As popgun & others already mentioned 2013 2014 wiring harness is different = for sure !!
Swapping partial harness with ECU ( if it comes in few separatable sections) may not work.
Also Ulvetanna is correct with his statement:
"If you were to tear apart the gage housing, you would find computer circuitry needed to process the bike's data critical to operation.
If you were really clever you could remove only the circuit boards needed, put them into a small, separate housing, and locate that inconspicuously somewhere, like, under the seat. Run the CANBUS line to it and connect everything exactly the same as if it were the gage cluster.
The mechanical gages don't need to be connected, but, who knows how they've been integrated into the circuitry? The whole thing may be nearly impossible."

You may also have an issue with a VIN reading or writing after swapping..???
Now days with the electronics, ECU, VIN, CAN+++ it becomes very difficult if not impossible to interchange/swap parts from other vehicles. Manufactures do not want anybody to buy parts from aftermarket or wreckers, only OEM, they mean business.
Your project needs deeper study prior spending money with no results..!!
Be aware what you digging into, and I doubt if anybody can clearly say "yes , it's gonna work"

pb

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
NOT so fast..

As popgun & others already mentioned 2013 2014 wiring harness is different = for sure !!
Swapping partial harness with ECU ( if it comes in few separatable sections) may not work.
Also Ulvetanna is correct with his statement:
"If you were to tear apart the gage housing, you would find computer circuitry needed to process the bike's data critical to operation.
If you were really clever you could remove only the circuit boards needed, put them into a small, separate housing, and locate that inconspicuously somewhere, like, under the seat. Run the CANBUS line to it and connect everything exactly the same as if it were the gage cluster.
The mechanical gages don't need to be connected, but, who knows how they've been integrated into the circuitry? The whole thing may be nearly impossible."

You may also have an issue with a VIN reading or writing after swapping..???
Now days with the electronics, ECU, VIN, CAN+++ it becomes very difficult if not impossible to interchange/swap parts from other vehicles. Manufactures do not want anybody to buy parts from aftermarket or wreckers, only OEM, they mean business.
Your project needs deeper study prior spending money with no results..!!
Be aware what you digging into, and I doubt if anybody can clearly say "yes , it's gonna work"

pb \
THANKFULLY THESE BIKES DON'T HAVE ANYTHING LIKE THAT.... ONLY ONES THAT I KNOW OF THAT HAVE SUCH ISSUES ARE ITALIAN BIKES LIKE DUCATI, APRILIA.... HONDA HASNT COME THAT FAR YET, WE CAN MODIFY THE HARNESS IF NEED BE OR WE HAVE NO PROBLEM GETTING WHATEVER IS NEEDED FROM THE 13 INCLUDING THE ENTIRE HARNESS.

WILL UPDATE WITH IMAGES.

(02-17-2018, 11:30 AM)Flynrider_imp Wrote: I've been reading this thread with interest. One thing I recall from the old "speed limiter" threads was that the speed sensor wire on the '13 goes from the rear wheel to the gauges, then somehow gets routed to the ECU. Something to keep in mind, as the ECU will limit performance if it doesn't get the speed signal.

(02-17-2018, 11:22 PM)Lord Popgun_imp Wrote: Houtman, I’ll have you know that I’m a legend in my own mind!

Mostly because, some of us have the service manual and have read it a few times, and at least a few of us are electronic techs. And some are motorcycle techs.

Some info is explained in the manual, some you have to get by reading the wiring diagram, and some is just not available from Honda. In which case you have to investigate. Thats what 4 of us are doing with the idle problem. And we’re still working on that.

I only wish I was as smart as some of the members here. Oh well.

(02-17-2018, 03:45 PM)Cormanus_imp Wrote: Peter, where does the 2014 Standard CB1100 send it's RWSS signal given it doesn't have ABS?