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RE: Rear brake pad replacement - itstuantran_imp - 02-13-2019

There is another way to retract the piston by pressing the 2 brake pads to one side, then lever on the metal side of the brake pad as picture below (to prevent damage to the brake pad) and press it to retract the piston.

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Rear brake pad replacement - mvk24_imp - 03-13-2024

Reviving an old thread here.

Do you guys reuse the "clip plates" that are on the backs of the factory rear pads? Looks like a backer plate and a paper gasket?

I just put the rear back together and realized these plates are on the factory rear pads?

I'm looking at the factory service manual and it doesn't mention or show anything about these "backer plates" in installing brake pads.

Not sure what to do

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2014 CB1100, 1981 KZ440 LTD, 1993 Yamaha XJ600 Seca, 1994 Yamaha XJ600 Seca

RE: Rear brake pad replacement - GoldOxide_imp - 03-13-2024

Honda Africa Twin users of OEM brake pads are using the backing plate.

They are not for aftermarket because they won't fit.

RE: Rear brake pad replacement - mvk24_imp - 03-13-2024

(03-13-2024, 08:15 AM)GoldOxide_imp Wrote: Honda Africa Twin users of OEM brake pads are using the backing plate.

They are not for aftermarket because they won't fit.
Good to know, I would have learned they didn't fit then if the new pads weren't already mounted when I discovered the plates haha.

Thank you Gold

Do OE pads come with new backing plates or should I make sure I hold on to these for OE in the future?

2014 CB1100, 1981 KZ440 LTD, 1993 Yamaha XJ600 Seca, 1994 Yamaha XJ600 Seca

RE: Rear brake pad replacement - WRXer_imp - 03-13-2024

I just replaced the pads on a 14. Moved the factory plates over to the new EBC pads on rear. Fronts do not have any. New OEM rears come with new plates but not available separate.

RE: Rear brake pad replacement - mvk24_imp - 03-13-2024

(03-13-2024, 09:19 AM)WRXer_imp Wrote: I just replaced the pads on a 14. Moved the factory plates over to the new EBC pads on rear. Fronts do not have any. New OEM rears come with new plates but not available separate.
Good to know also, my paranoia has me wanting to see if the plates will fit in the sixity pads for piece of mind. Feel like I'm lacking a spacer or something now haha

2014 CB1100, 1981 KZ440 LTD, 1993 Yamaha XJ600 Seca, 1994 Yamaha XJ600 Seca

RE: Rear brake pad replacement - Lord Popgun - 03-13-2024

They are not shown as separate items on the parts fiche.

RE: Rear brake pad replacement - GoldOxide_imp - 03-13-2024

(03-13-2024, 08:24 AM)mvk24_imp Wrote:
(03-13-2024, 08:15 AM)GoldOxide_imp Wrote: Honda Africa Twin users of OEM brake pads are using the backing plate.

They are not for aftermarket because they won't fit.
Good to know, I would have learned they didn't fit then if the new pads weren't already mounted when I discovered the plates haha.

Thank you Gold

Do OE pads come with new backing plates or should I make sure I hold on to these for OE in the future?

2014 CB1100, 1981 KZ440 LTD, 1993 Yamaha XJ600 Seca, 1994 Yamaha XJ600 Seca

Good question. I cannot recall. My grey matter is telling me to save the originals just in case. I'll have to go through a set to determine myself - and that could be a long time.

RE: Rear brake pad replacement - mvk24_imp - 03-13-2024

(03-13-2024, 10:03 AM)Lord Popgun_imp Wrote: They are not shown as separate items on the parts fiche.
Yea thats what I saw in the factory service manual also it was just the set of pads. No separate backing plates in the schematics.

2014 CB1100, 1981 KZ440 LTD, 1993 Yamaha XJ600 Seca, 1994 Yamaha XJ600 Seca
(03-13-2024, 10:06 AM)GoldOxide_imp Wrote:
(03-13-2024, 08:24 AM)mvk24_imp Wrote:
(03-13-2024, 08:15 AM)GoldOxide_imp Wrote: Honda Africa Twin users of OEM brake pads are using the backing plate.

They are not for aftermarket because they won't fit.
Good to know, I would have learned they didn't fit then if the new pads weren't already mounted when I discovered the plates haha.

Thank you Gold

Do OE pads come with new backing plates or should I make sure I hold on to these for OE in the future?

2014 CB1100, 1981 KZ440 LTD, 1993 Yamaha XJ600 Seca, 1994 Yamaha XJ600 Seca

Good question. I cannot recall. My grey matter is telling me to save the originals just in case. I'll have to go through a set to determine myself - and that could be a long time.

Good question. I cannot recall. My grey matter is telling me to save the originals just in case. I'll have to go through a set to determine myself - and that could be a long time. Hey wrxer above mentioned new OEM pads come with the new plates to answer our question.

I'm in the habit of keeping old parts anyways as replacements or for reference in the future so ill still hold onto mine since they had some life left.

2014 CB1100, 1981 KZ440 LTD, 1993 Yamaha XJ600 Seca, 1994 Yamaha XJ600 Seca

RE: Rear brake pad replacement - Delphisa - 05-03-2025

Soon I'll have to replace rear brake pads a second time, so I had a look at this old thread... Here is a copy of my 2019 post, with updated image links...

Text from LongRanger post, 2016 august 16th:
Quote:1 - Press the piston into the caliper by pushing the caliper inwards, towards the wheel (the caliper only has one piston, on the outboard side).
2 - Loosen but do not remove the pad mounting pin (8mm head).
3 - Remove the rear caliper mounting bolt (12mm head).
4 - Remove the pad mounting pin.
5 - Rotate the caliper upwards, towards the front of the bike. If you've compressed the piston sufficiently, the pads will simply fall out.
6 - Clean up the inside of the caliper.
7 - With the caliper rotated upwards, slide in the new pads. Be sure they engage the spring on the upper surface of the caliper, and be sure the tangs on the pads hang on the front of the caliper. It's easy to see what's happening while the caliper is rotated upwards.
8 - Lower the caliper onto the rotor.
9 - Apply a tiny dab of grease to the tip of the pad mounting pin. Reinstall the pad mounting pin through the holes in the pads and the caliper. You'll need to press the pads up against the spring for the holes to line up. Don't fully tighten the pad mounting pin just yet.
10 - Install the (new) rear caliper mounting bolt. Torque to 16 lb-ft. My 1/2" drive torque wrench wouldn't fit, so I simply used an open-end 12mm wrench and did my best.
11 - Tighten the pad mounting pin. Torque to 13 lb-ft. Again, my torque wrench wouldn't fit, so I used an open-end 8mm wrench.
12- Press down on brake pedal to extend the piston and set the pads against the rotor.

Thank you LongRanger for the detailed process! It helped me making the job. I took some new photographs, as yours are no more available...
Step 2 and 3:
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Step5:
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Before step 7 : I checked the brake fluid level was not too high in the reservoir:
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I used a large pair of clamps, with wooden tabs, for retracting the piston :
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And checked again the brake fluid reservoir after piston retraction:
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Then it's done
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My rear brake tabs were really worth replacing, at about 27000 km (16700 miles):
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