(01-23-2018, 07:25 AM)Guth_imp Wrote:

(01-23-2018, 07:01 AM)Labrador12_imp Wrote: I wasn't looking for or even ever heard of the CB1100 when I ran across a link to that "Ten Thousand Miles On The Last Aircooled Honda" piece. I just got back from six months of fly fishing in Ak living in my truck camper with my Labrador Retriever, Glock. I knew I wasn't going up to Ak in 18 before July and was thinking about stumbling into a big twin maybe in the spring. That piece on the Honda perked up my ears so I looked online for them. I never even considered buying a 17. I found dozens online at great prices. I've got a dealer two miles away from my new house so stopped in to look. I really like the bike. Black is beautiful. I've owned a 350F and a Suzuki 1100 Katana so I like inline fours. Thanks for the forum. I expect to enjoy the snot out of this bike if I can keep my decrepit body together for a few more years. This bike was made for me, now. I was figuring on having to invest at least 5K into a used H-D and instead got a NEW Solid Big Honda Four. I are a happy soon to be 67 year old dude.

Okay, now I don't want to contribute to thread creep around here by any means, so I'm not going to ask you to expand on that adventure. Just know that I'm a tad bit envious.

(01-23-2018, 07:01 AM)Labrador12_imp Wrote: I wasn't looking for or even ever heard of the CB1100 when I ran across a link to that "Ten Thousand Miles On The Last Aircooled Honda" piece. I just got back from six months of fly fishing in Ak living in my truck camper with my Labrador Retriever, Glock. I knew I wasn't going up to Ak in 18 before July and was thinking about stumbling into a big twin maybe in the spring. That piece on the Honda perked up my ears so I looked online for them. I never even considered buying a 17. I found dozens online at great prices. I've got a dealer two miles away from my new house so stopped in to look. I really like the bike. Black is beautiful. I've owned a 350F and a Suzuki 1100 Katana so I like inline fours. Thanks for the forum. I expect to enjoy the snot out of this bike if I can keep my decrepit body together for a few more years. This bike was made for me, now. I was figuring on having to invest at least 5K into a used H-D and instead got a NEW Solid Big Honda Four. I are a happy soon to be 67 year old dude.

To keep this thread on track, this just makes your story even better in my humble opinion! That's awesome.

(01-23-2018, 07:23 AM)Cormanus_imp Wrote: Thank you for your forbearance, boss. I woke up a while ago and a brief but very welcome shower of rain was falling. It made me come over all egalitarian and benign. I apologise. Now I've had a bit of a cup of tea the world looks more normal and I've reverted to type. I realise most clowns out there are actually incapable of appreciation of any sort.

Too funny Cormanus. My viewpoints and opinions certainly often require some counter-balancing I'll readily admit. Glad you got some rain if it was much needed (wish I could send some of ours your way).

(01-23-2018, 07:25 AM)Guth_imp Wrote:

(01-23-2018, 07:01 AM)Labrador12_imp Wrote: I wasn't looking for or even ever heard of the CB1100 when I ran across a link to that "Ten Thousand Miles On The Last Aircooled Honda" piece. I just got back from six months of fly fishing in Ak living in my truck camper with my Labrador Retriever, Glock. I knew I wasn't going up to Ak in 18 before July and was thinking about stumbling into a big twin maybe in the spring. That piece on the Honda perked up my ears so I looked online for them. I never even considered buying a 17. I found dozens online at great prices. I've got a dealer two miles away from my new house so stopped in to look. I really like the bike. Black is beautiful. I've owned a 350F and a Suzuki 1100 Katana so I like inline fours. Thanks for the forum. I expect to enjoy the snot out of this bike if I can keep my decrepit body together for a few more years. This bike was made for me, now. I was figuring on having to invest at least 5K into a used H-D and instead got a NEW Solid Big Honda Four. I are a happy soon to be 67 year old dude.

Okay, now I don't want to contribute to thread creep around here by any means, so I'm not going to ask you to expand on that adventure. Just know that I'm a tad bit envious.

(01-23-2018, 07:01 AM)Labrador12_imp Wrote: I wasn't looking for or even ever heard of the CB1100 when I ran across a link to that "Ten Thousand Miles On The Last Aircooled Honda" piece. I just got back from six months of fly fishing in Ak living in my truck camper with my Labrador Retriever, Glock. I knew I wasn't going up to Ak in 18 before July and was thinking about stumbling into a big twin maybe in the spring. That piece on the Honda perked up my ears so I looked online for them. I never even considered buying a 17. I found dozens online at great prices. I've got a dealer two miles away from my new house so stopped in to look. I really like the bike. Black is beautiful. I've owned a 350F and a Suzuki 1100 Katana so I like inline fours. Thanks for the forum. I expect to enjoy the snot out of this bike if I can keep my decrepit body together for a few more years. This bike was made for me, now. I was figuring on having to invest at least 5K into a used H-D and instead got a NEW Solid Big Honda Four. I are a happy soon to be 67 year old dude.

To keep this thread on track, this just makes your story even better in my humble opinion! That's awesome.

(01-23-2018, 07:23 AM)Cormanus_imp Wrote: Thank you for your forbearance, boss. I woke up a while ago and a brief but very welcome shower of rain was falling. It made me come over all egalitarian and benign. I apologise. Now I've had a bit of a cup of tea the world looks more normal and I've reverted to type. I realise most clowns out there are actually incapable of appreciation of any sort.

Too funny Cormanus. My viewpoints and opinions certainly often require some counter-balancing I'll readily admit. Glad you got some rain if it was much needed (wish I could send some of ours your way).

(01-23-2018, 08:02 AM)Cormanus_imp Wrote:

(01-23-2018, 07:25 AM)Guth_imp Wrote:

(01-23-2018, 07:01 AM)Labrador12_imp Wrote: I wasn't looking for or even ever heard of the CB1100 when I ran across a link to that "Ten Thousand Miles On The Last Aircooled Honda" piece. I just got back from six months of fly fishing in Ak living in my truck camper with my Labrador Retriever, Glock. I knew I wasn't going up to Ak in 18 before July and was thinking about stumbling into a big twin maybe in the spring. That piece on the Honda perked up my ears so I looked online for them. I never even considered buying a 17. I found dozens online at great prices. I've got a dealer two miles away from my new house so stopped in to look. I really like the bike. Black is beautiful. I've owned a 350F and a Suzuki 1100 Katana so I like inline fours. Thanks for the forum. I expect to enjoy the snot out of this bike if I can keep my decrepit body together for a few more years. This bike was made for me, now. I was figuring on having to invest at least 5K into a used H-D and instead got a NEW Solid Big Honda Four. I are a happy soon to be 67 year old dude.

Okay, now I don't want to contribute to thread creep around here by any means, so I'm not going to ask you to expand on that adventure. Just know that I'm a tad bit envious.

(01-23-2018, 07:01 AM)Labrador12_imp Wrote: I wasn't looking for or even ever heard of the CB1100 when I ran across a link to that "Ten Thousand Miles On The Last Aircooled Honda" piece. I just got back from six months of fly fishing in Ak living in my truck camper with my Labrador Retriever, Glock. I knew I wasn't going up to Ak in 18 before July and was thinking about stumbling into a big twin maybe in the spring. That piece on the Honda perked up my ears so I looked online for them. I never even considered buying a 17. I found dozens online at great prices. I've got a dealer two miles away from my new house so stopped in to look. I really like the bike. Black is beautiful. I've owned a 350F and a Suzuki 1100 Katana so I like inline fours. Thanks for the forum. I expect to enjoy the snot out of this bike if I can keep my decrepit body together for a few more years. This bike was made for me, now. I was figuring on having to invest at least 5K into a used H-D and instead got a NEW Solid Big Honda Four. I are a happy soon to be 67 year old dude.

To keep this thread on track, this just makes your story even better in my humble opinion! That's awesome.

(01-23-2018, 07:23 AM)Cormanus_imp Wrote: Thank you for your forbearance, boss. I woke up a while ago and a brief but very welcome shower of rain was falling. It made me come over all egalitarian and benign. I apologise. Now I've had a bit of a cup of tea the world looks more normal and I've reverted to type. I realise most clowns out there are actually incapable of appreciation of any sort.

Too funny Cormanus. My viewpoints and opinions certainly often require some counter-balancing I'll readily admit. Glad you got some rain if it was much needed (wish I could send some of ours your way).

Someone's gotta do it. It's the cb1100forum where no thread stays on topic for more than 4 posts. Who better to lead the charge than the boss?

(01-23-2018, 07:25 AM)Guth_imp Wrote:

(01-23-2018, 07:01 AM)Labrador12_imp Wrote: I wasn't looking for or even ever heard of the CB1100 when I ran across a link to that "Ten Thousand Miles On The Last Aircooled Honda" piece. I just got back from six months of fly fishing in Ak living in my truck camper with my Labrador Retriever, Glock. I knew I wasn't going up to Ak in 18 before July and was thinking about stumbling into a big twin maybe in the spring. That piece on the Honda perked up my ears so I looked online for them. I never even considered buying a 17. I found dozens online at great prices. I've got a dealer two miles away from my new house so stopped in to look. I really like the bike. Black is beautiful. I've owned a 350F and a Suzuki 1100 Katana so I like inline fours. Thanks for the forum. I expect to enjoy the snot out of this bike if I can keep my decrepit body together for a few more years. This bike was made for me, now. I was figuring on having to invest at least 5K into a used H-D and instead got a NEW Solid Big Honda Four. I are a happy soon to be 67 year old dude.

Okay, now I don't want to contribute to thread creep around here by any means, so I'm not going to ask you to expand on that adventure. Just know that I'm a tad bit envious.

(01-23-2018, 07:01 AM)Labrador12_imp Wrote: I wasn't looking for or even ever heard of the CB1100 when I ran across a link to that "Ten Thousand Miles On The Last Aircooled Honda" piece. I just got back from six months of fly fishing in Ak living in my truck camper with my Labrador Retriever, Glock. I knew I wasn't going up to Ak in 18 before July and was thinking about stumbling into a big twin maybe in the spring. That piece on the Honda perked up my ears so I looked online for them. I never even considered buying a 17. I found dozens online at great prices. I've got a dealer two miles away from my new house so stopped in to look. I really like the bike. Black is beautiful. I've owned a 350F and a Suzuki 1100 Katana so I like inline fours. Thanks for the forum. I expect to enjoy the snot out of this bike if I can keep my decrepit body together for a few more years. This bike was made for me, now. I was figuring on having to invest at least 5K into a used H-D and instead got a NEW Solid Big Honda Four. I are a happy soon to be 67 year old dude.

To keep this thread on track, this just makes your story even better in my humble opinion! That's awesome.

(01-23-2018, 07:23 AM)Cormanus_imp Wrote: Thank you for your forbearance, boss. I woke up a while ago and a brief but very welcome shower of rain was falling. It made me come over all egalitarian and benign. I apologise. Now I've had a bit of a cup of tea the world looks more normal and I've reverted to type. I realise most clowns out there are actually incapable of appreciation of any sort.

Too funny Cormanus. My viewpoints and opinions certainly often require some counter-balancing I'll readily admit. Glad you got some rain if it was much needed (wish I could send some of ours your way).

Wouldn't mind it at all. Our normal January average is about 150 mms. So far we've had a tad over 4. It's supposed to be the wet season.

(01-23-2018, 03:40 AM)VLJ_imp Wrote: Regardless of whether it's sequential or numbered as the bikes arrive in the country, a last-three-digits vin designation of '393' means that a minimum of 393 '17 CB1100s were brought to the U.S. Seeing as how that bike has sat there for a good three or four months, I'm guessing there must be at least 500 '17 CB1100s in the country.

(01-23-2018, 09:35 AM)peterbaron_imp Wrote: Here is a partial VIN of 2014::
VIN Number: 102229

and here is the link to this bike:
https://www.cycletrader.com/listing/2014-Honda-CB1100-122423882

Tell me what you think of this VIN...... it is 102229 th CB made by Honda in 2014 or maybe 102229 in the US...or something else??????

pb

(01-23-2018, 06:40 AM)Cormanus_imp Wrote: Ulvetanna, while you're right that there's no requirement for VINs to be issued sequentially, it is hard to believe they aren't. I suspect that, as bikes destined for a particular country roll off the production line, the compliance plate is attached and they have a pile starting with 0001 and going up to wherever. I'd be very surprised if the VINs don't give some indication of the number imported.

As for your VIN being reissued when you got a new frame, that's not surprising either. There is a mandatory link between the VIN and the engine number of motor vehicles and I'd assume that maintaining that when the bike got a new frame was sensible.

(01-23-2018, 06:12 AM)Guth_imp Wrote: We probably have the tendency to sometimes lose track of the bigger picture when looking at the world of motorcycling through the window of this forum. The number of CB1100s that Honda decided to bring in always seem so low to those of us who enjoy our CBs. But in retrospect it would seem that maybe Honda knew what they were doing. Sometimes we feel it a shame that the bike wasn't better marketed, but as I've come to view things lately I don't think Honda ever felt the need to push this particular motorcycle. I just don't think that there are all that many of use who can really appreciate this machine for what it was intended to be (or rather what it is). Nor do I think that most people can really appreciate the effort that Honda went to produce such a motorcycle (along with the resulting prices). This is why I've stated a few times that I feel like Honda primarily built this motorcycle for Honda, lol. They're Honda after all, and they have plenty of great heritage to celebrate so why not?

Honda still have some leftover inventory from years past and when all is said and done it would appear that most people who really wanted one of these bikes has ended up with one. Even the bikes that were distributed in lower numbers like the DLX models were probably about right for the number of folks that were drawn to them. Those examples that are changing hands these days are taking a lot longer to do so than in the past.

I often find it hard to believe that more guys my age and beyond didn't fall hard for the CB1100 like I did. But when I stop to ponder it longer I guess that I'm not quite so surprised. I'm just glad that Honda made it possible for me to buy the one I wanted along with so many of you other guys that are here on the forum.

I'd feel happier if you left 'can' out of both sentences I've quoted. I'm sure lots of people could appreciate the bike and its heritage, but they simply don't care. That seems to me a bit different. Even if they took the trouble and understood those things, it wouldn't change their decision about which motorcycle to own. In the end their decision about what bike to purchase will come down to 'I like THAT one'! How like is calculated is very complicated and individual. Just review VLJ's and Ulvetanna's commentary for a start!

(01-23-2018, 09:36 AM)Ulvetanna_imp Wrote:

(01-23-2018, 03:40 AM)VLJ_imp Wrote: Regardless of whether it's sequential or numbered as the bikes arrive in the country, a last-three-digits vin designation of '393' means that a minimum of 393 '17 CB1100s were brought to the U.S. Seeing as how that bike has sat there for a good three or four months, I'm guessing there must be at least 500 '17 CB1100s in the country.

VLJ, I take it that, after a fairly thorough reading of the NHTSA document, that some of the units may be numbered randomly; that is, there is really no sequence required. As long as the identifier is unique and all other of the very complex aspects of creating the VIN are followed, the VIN number is legal.

Read up on how the check digit is created and verified...arrggghhh.

I don't think the last digits of the VIN are any way to really assess how many of any particular model got to any particular market.

I know I've never seen a 2017, and I live in the most populous area for motorcycles in the state. They don't seem to be able to give them away, hardly.

(01-23-2018, 09:35 AM)peterbaron_imp Wrote: Here is a partial VIN of 2014::
VIN Number: 102229

and here is the link to this bike:
https://www.cycletrader.com/listing/2014-Honda-CB1100-122423882

Tell me what you think of this VIN...... it is 102229 th CB made by Honda in 2014 or maybe 102229 in the US...or something else??????

pb

Thanks for that; no way Honda ever imported over 100,000 CB1100s to the United States. The number is actually 102291, there was a typo in the initial post. Those would be HUGE numbers for any model.

(01-23-2018, 09:35 AM)peterbaron_imp Wrote: Here is a partial VIN of 2014::
VIN Number: 102229

and here is the link to this bike:
https://www.cycletrader.com/listing/2014-Honda-CB1100-122423882

Tell me what you think of this VIN...... it is 102229 th CB made by Honda in 2014 or maybe 102229 in the US...or something else??????

pb