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RE: The BT54R front didn't last long - max - 05-11-2021

Very good explanation Pekingduck, especially with the drawing, i would like to add that i wore both rear tires on the cb1100 out on the right hand side ( left hand traffic here in nz.) it had me baffled for quite a while and only on the cb1100.
One day i noticed that i was using the rear brake unintentionally and mostly without noticing it, turned out that the rear brake on the cb1100 is quite "grabby", it works well and i had my foot positioned in such a way that it activated the rear brake when i felt a bit quick and slow down almost automatically a bit in a right hand turn ( outside and faster in nz ).

So i have un-learned that habit and we'll see if that makes a difference, i have replaced the first rear tire on the cb1000r and did not have the same uneven wear, so i'm still learning stuff.

RE: The BT54R front didn't last long - pekingduck - 05-11-2021

(05-11-2021, 01:24 PM)max_imp Wrote: Very good explanation Pekingduck, especially with the drawing, i would like to add that i wore both rear tires on the cb1100 out on the right hand side ( left hand traffic here in nz.) it had me baffled for quite a while and only on the cb1100.
One day i noticed that i was using the rear brake unintentionally and mostly without noticing it, turned out that the rear brake on the cb1100 is quite "grabby", it works well and i had my foot positioned in such a way that it activated the rear brake when i felt a bit quick and slow down almost automatically a bit in a right hand turn ( outside and faster in nz ).

So i have un-learned that habit and we'll see if that makes a difference, i have replaced the first rear tire on the cb1000r and did not have the same uneven wear, so i'm still learning stuff.

Thanks Max. I see it mostly on the front, the rear wearing out in the center before one side on mine.
My rear brake has very little freeplay, and I have to lift my foot to be above the pedal, so don't use it enough. I need to adjust it downward, but have just been too busy (lazy).

RE: The BT54R front didn't last long - the Ferret - 05-12-2021

Here are the tires (Angel GT's) on mine after 5000 miles.. slight flattening on the rear, but equal wear on the sides.

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I ride roads like this every day

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RE: The BT54R front didn't last long - Scotty_imp - 05-12-2021

My roads. I think it's 74 turns in 4 miles! Banner Grade. It's worth a YouTube search.


RE: The BT54R front didn't last long - Randy B - 05-12-2021

(05-12-2021, 07:57 AM)Scotty_imp Wrote: My roads. I think it's 74 turns in 4 miles! Banner Grade. It's worth a YouTube search.

You'd enjoy this road. Big Grin
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/37.3274146,-121.7672596/Mt+Hamilton,+CA+95140/@37.3234266,-121.7315306,13z/data=!4m9!4m8!1m0!1m5!1m1!1s0x808e2a6e8c95b1eb:0x71ad0e968f8785b9!2m2!1d-121.6430017!2d37.3418834!3e0!5m1!1e4

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RE: The BT54R front didn't last long - jimgl3_imp - 05-12-2021

ferrett, think of a mountain road. you can see around a left hand turn and therefore are more comfortable than a right hand turn where you can't see around that big rock "wall". canyon roads out in California are similar. so they are going faster on the left hand turns. it's why I transitioned to the track back when I did. you can see around all turns.

by the way, that is a nice piece of road you put in that photo. most of ours here you can't see around the right handers.

RE: The BT54R front didn't last long - the Ferret - 05-12-2021

Jimgl3..that's the reason for being out by by the outside line in any turn and taking it as deep as you can, so you can see further in the turn and determine if you need to lean more (if the curve tightens up) or adjust speed or adjust line to successfully hit the apex and complete the turn.

I can't speak from canyon walls, as we don't have canyon walls anywhere I ride, but on a canyon wall less road (or a race track for that matter) there is no difference between left and right curves when ridden properly, one is just the other flipped upside down. Riders east of the Rocky Mts don't have to worry about canyon walls, but they still should to learn to corner properly.

Whether left or right, enter on the outside of the curve, apex at the center, finish back up on the outside. Outside to inside, inside to outside. Yellow/white/yellow on righties ...white/yellow/white on lefties.

Setting up for a right hander, (out by the yellow line)

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Setting up for a left hander (out by the white line)

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Setting up for a "blind" right hander..it is necessary to stay outside, near the centerline as long as you can to look through the turn ....does it open up? does it get tighter? where is the apex? is there another turn following this one? does it go right or left? You have to outside and deep to see.

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I might add that this becomes increasingly more important as speed increases. Not necessary if going slow enough say 30-40 mph, you could ride thru curves right in the middle of the road, but as speed increases to say 50-60 mph or more proper cornering technic becomes more important. On a super curvy road with multiple curves in a row it is vital to set up a corner properly so as not to mess up the entrance to the next corner.