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RE: Fuel Choices - Sam Mac_imp - 07-18-2016
I use Shell 89 no ethanol in my CB and all of my lawn and garden stuff. I have better things to do than deal with plugged up fuel systems. Ethanol belongs in booze not gas as far as I'm concerned.
RE: Fuel Choices - Chapomis_imp - 07-18-2016
Your lucky to have that, non-existent around here, maybe at the Marina's, but I don't think they would appreciate me driving the CB down the dock.....woops, splash
RE: Fuel Choices - Inhouse Bob - 07-18-2016
(07-18-2016, 08:29 AM)Chapomis_imp Wrote: Your lucky to have that, non-existent around here, maybe at the Marina's, but I don't think they would appreciate me driving the CB down the dock.....woops, splash
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b424iGkWe0Q
RE: Fuel Choices - Sam Mac_imp - 07-18-2016
Try this link to find non ethanol gas in your area.
http://www.pure-gas.org/
RE: Fuel Choices - Chapomis_imp - 07-18-2016
(07-18-2016, 09:37 AM)Inhouse Bob_imp Wrote:(07-18-2016, 08:29 AM)Chapomis_imp Wrote: Your lucky to have that, non-existent around here, maybe at the Marina's, but I don't think they would appreciate me driving the CB down the dock.....woops, splash
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b424iGkWe0Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b424iGkWe0Q
Yup !
(07-18-2016, 09:57 AM)Sam Mac_imp Wrote: Try this link to find non ethanol gas in your area.
http://www.pure-gas.org/
Thats pretty cool, found 3 stations, all 30 minutes away, starred them on my google map. Should be a phone app for that !
RE: Fuel Choices - the Ferret - 07-18-2016
I think the article address top tier fuels NOT pure gas fuels.
RE: Fuel Choices - riceburner_imp - 07-18-2016
With a memory like a sieve,i thought a few years back when they took MTBE out of gasoline they added alcohol as an oxidizer,and also use it as an octane booster,so wouldn't premium have more alcohol than regular? I use regular in everything except the sportster which gets premium on the advice of an old harley mechanic(64 mpg last tank,base 883,1997),the CB has 450 miles on it now and the mileage display is at 55.1.It doesn't ping,I ride in the lower half of the rpm range.All my cars and trucks have always burned the cheap gas with no problems,every 3-5000 miles I dump a can of fuel system cleaner in with a tankful and run until almost empty.I've owned multiple vehicles(mostly bought new and maintained by me)and used cheap gas and fuel system cleaner and Mobil1 fully synthetic oil and never had problems with injectors,throttle bodies,mileage ,performance etc.
RE: Fuel Choices - Pete Erickson_imp - 07-18-2016
When I purchased my Moto Guzzi in 2009, the dealer recommended that I use regular gas even though the factory recommended premium. He also gave me an article on why regular was a better choice. The main reason was regular out sells premium by a large margin. Because it does, it is usually fresher that premium, which can sit longer in the storage tanks until you pump it out. Ethanol has propensity to attract water and then there is the problem with phase separation. The longer E10 fuel sits in a storage tank, the better the chances are that it will attract water. If it sits long enough phase separation can occur. The ethanol, water and gas will separate into three distinct layers.
I used regular for the first year and then found a product that says it keeps ethanol and water in suspension and prevents phase separation. I have used it ever since.
Does it work?
My Moto Guzzi has as plastic tank. The plastic used does not like ethanol. Ethanol can cause the tank to expand and deform enough that the tank cannot be reinstalled once it is removed. It can also cause it to have huge bulges on the sides. Ducati had similar problem with their plastic tanks. Moto Guzzi switched to a steel tank in 2012 or 2013 because of the problems with the plastic tanks.
My bike is 7 years old and original tank looks the same as it did the day I purchased it. The tank has been removed and reinstalled a couple of times.
I use Star Tron, but there couple of other products that might work just as well.
RE: Fuel Choices - Motogeezer1949_imp - 07-18-2016
I used 87 octane in the CB with no issues. Plugs always read nice and clean. When Don flashed the computer and I did the other mods, he recommended upping the octane to 89. IMO, he's probably had the most exposure to the CB, and done the most dyno runs, so if anyone would know, he'd be the expert. The plugs still read excellent using mostly 89 ethanol free at Wawa. I use the Pure Gas app also, but occasionally out and about, I have to use fuel with ethanol. Truthfully, I can't tell any difference
RE: Fuel Choices - mininsx_imp - 07-19-2016
(07-18-2016, 12:40 PM)riceburner_imp Wrote: With a memory like a sieve,i thought a few years back when they took MTBE out of gasoline they added alcohol as an oxidizer,and also use it as an octane booster,so wouldn't premium have more alcohol than regular? I use regular in everything except the sportster which gets premium on the advice of an old harley mechanic(64 mpg last tank,base 883,1997),the CB has 450 miles on it now and the mileage display is at 55.1.It doesn't ping,I ride in the lower half of the rpm range.All my cars and trucks have always burned the cheap gas with no problems,every 3-5000 miles I dump a can of fuel system cleaner in with a tankful and run until almost empty.I've owned multiple vehicles(mostly bought new and maintained by me)and used cheap gas and fuel system cleaner and Mobil1 fully synthetic oil and never had problems with injectors,throttle bodies,mileage ,performance etc.
10% ethanol is usually the max, although our EPA in their infinite wisdom is trying to roll out pumps that dispense 15%, which is a no-no for small engines and motorcycles. The difference between low octane and high octane isn't additives, it's that different blend stock or raw material is used in the blend.