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RE: DID silver plated ZVM-X chains - SportsterDoc - 11-25-2018
(11-25-2018, 01:24 AM)The ferret_imp Wrote: Well the drive belt on my Yamaha Majesty 400 the recommended replacement was at 12,500 miles., but that was with a CVT transmission
I thought I read on HD's that the recommended life is 100,0000 miles
Belts are not maintenance free, they need periodic adjustment, and they make a special tool for that, they just don't need lubrication.
Yes a rock wedged in between belt and "sprocket" will destroy a belt
it's difficult and expensive to "drop or add a tooth" on a belt drive system to alter gearing
I've heard you have to tear a Harley almost in half to replace a belt
IMO belts are better than chains for most street motorcycle applications, but shafts are better than both(not for sport bikes or off road bikes) .
Honda used to make shaft drive bikes down to 500 cc. Yamaha made a shaft drive 50 cc.
Crawl under your car and see what's under there. Would you prefer a belt or chain drive car? (Honda actually made a chain drive car in the late 50's.)
Sportster belts may make it to 100,000, but typically 60,000-80,000.
(11-25-2018, 01:24 AM)The ferret_imp Wrote: Well the drive belt on my Yamaha Majesty 400 the recommended replacement was at 12,500 miles., but that was with a CVT transmission
I thought I read on HD's that the recommended life is 100,0000 miles
Belts are not maintenance free, they need periodic adjustment, and they make a special tool for that, they just don't need lubrication.
Yes a rock wedged in between belt and "sprocket" will destroy a belt
it's difficult and expensive to "drop or add a tooth" on a belt drive system to alter gearing
I've heard you have to tear a Harley almost in half to replace a belt
IMO belts are better than chains for most street motorcycle applications, but shafts are better than both(not for sport bikes or off road bikes) .
Honda used to make shaft drive bikes down to 500 cc. Yamaha made a shaft drive 50 cc.
Crawl under your car and see what's under there. Would you prefer a belt or chain drive car? (Honda actually made a chain drive car in the late 50's.)
Typically one tension adjustment, after run-in. The tool is a tensioner and it is not essential...however, it is destructive to over-tighten a belt.
(11-25-2018, 01:24 AM)The ferret_imp Wrote: Well the drive belt on my Yamaha Majesty 400 the recommended replacement was at 12,500 miles., but that was with a CVT transmission
I thought I read on HD's that the recommended life is 100,0000 miles
Belts are not maintenance free, they need periodic adjustment, and they make a special tool for that, they just don't need lubrication.
Yes a rock wedged in between belt and "sprocket" will destroy a belt
it's difficult and expensive to "drop or add a tooth" on a belt drive system to alter gearing
I've heard you have to tear a Harley almost in half to replace a belt
IMO belts are better than chains for most street motorcycle applications, but shafts are better than both(not for sport bikes or off road bikes) .
Honda used to make shaft drive bikes down to 500 cc. Yamaha made a shaft drive 50 cc.
Crawl under your car and see what's under there. Would you prefer a belt or chain drive car? (Honda actually made a chain drive car in the late 50's.)
Perhaps on a big twin, but on a Sportster, mainly just unbolt shock absorber and remove front pulley cover...no worse than continuous chain.
(11-25-2018, 01:24 AM)The ferret_imp Wrote: Well the drive belt on my Yamaha Majesty 400 the recommended replacement was at 12,500 miles., but that was with a CVT transmission
I thought I read on HD's that the recommended life is 100,0000 miles
Belts are not maintenance free, they need periodic adjustment, and they make a special tool for that, they just don't need lubrication.
Yes a rock wedged in between belt and "sprocket" will destroy a belt
it's difficult and expensive to "drop or add a tooth" on a belt drive system to alter gearing
I've heard you have to tear a Harley almost in half to replace a belt
IMO belts are better than chains for most street motorcycle applications, but shafts are better than both(not for sport bikes or off road bikes) .
Honda used to make shaft drive bikes down to 500 cc. Yamaha made a shaft drive 50 cc.
Crawl under your car and see what's under there. Would you prefer a belt or chain drive car? (Honda actually made a chain drive car in the late 50's.)
I saw Honda mini-sport cars in Japan in late sixties with chain drive.
RE: DID silver plated ZVM-X chains - tuareg - 11-26-2018
Someone say chain-driven car?
An American-LaFrance, originally a fire engine. The owners race it every year at the Klassikwelt. And yes, it's road legal, I see them driving off from the grounds.
RE: DID silver plated ZVM-X chains - GoldOxide_imp - 11-26-2018
(11-26-2018, 05:40 AM)tuareg_imp Wrote: Someone say chain-driven car?
An American-LaFrance, originally a fire engine. The owners race it every year at the Klassikwelt. And yes, it's road legal, I see them driving off from the grounds.
That sir, is a beast!
RE: DID silver plated ZVM-X chains - Houtman_imp - 12-01-2018
Just put a new DID chain on my 2013 , did not look as bad as the one on my 2014 (more miles on the 2013 ! ) I have to do a better job of cleaning and oiling. Will from now onward clean with kerosene and after drying it use 80/90 gear oil ; putting it on with rag soaked in the oil . Will be messy but should be able to get the oil on the outside AND the inside plates. Spraying with the wax was not as good as hoped but probably my own fault .
RE: DID silver plated ZVM-X chains - peterbaron - 12-01-2018
I use variety of chain lubricants not just for lube but also as antirust agent, especially before long distance/few days trips that may get involved in rain.
When I got my demo '13 CB with 4500km, its chain was covered by grease, not oil.
RE: DID silver plated ZVM-X chains - GoldOxide_imp - 12-01-2018
I have seen some super sport riders with chains so brown and squeaky that I swear I was riding beside a WWII Sherman tank.
RE: DID silver plated ZVM-X chains - peterbaron - 12-01-2018
..what happened to belt pic?
RE: DID silver plated ZVM-X chains - GoldOxide_imp - 12-01-2018
(11-24-2018, 12:31 PM)GoldOxide_imp Wrote: Okay thanks Houtman. In that case, replace gold and silver with anodized gold/silver colour. Has anything really changed?
Considering alternatives to chain (I hate chain maintenance), and likewise shaft (mechanics are usually somewhat heavy for one thing), what do people think what Yamaha did with the later model Bolt?
I mean, yeah, the set-up is HD-ugly-like, but my understanding is the *Yamaha-specific* belt is essentially maintenance free, has ultra long replacement life, does not come off in sandy riding environments, is cheap and is quiet. Other than ugly, a large rear sprocket/pulley thang, why don't we see more of these on machines?
Definitely not consistent with the traditional intent of the CB, but what about other bikes? Does it come down to the sucky appearance? Something else?
PB: You mean the belt pic on Forum thread Page 1? It is still there - for me at least.
http://cb1100forum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=13605&pid=223470#pid223470
RE: DID silver plated ZVM-X chains - peterbaron - 12-01-2018
PB: You mean the belt pic on Forum thread Page 1? It is still there - for me at least.
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I mixed up, sorry and thanks
RE: DID silver plated ZVM-X chains - GoldOxide_imp - 12-01-2018
(12-01-2018, 08:14 AM)peterbaron_imp Wrote: PB: You mean the belt pic on Forum thread Page 1? It is still there - for me at least.
I mixed up, sorry and thanks
[/quote] PB: You mean the belt pic on Forum thread Page 1? It is still there - for me at least.
I mixed up, sorry and thanks
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