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RE: About the problem of high idling. (2014 cb1100ex) - max - 06-14-2022
GO i used a 4 pole cable with different colors, they have fitting " header connectors " and one header connector has 4 thin wires which fit into the iacv connector and has 2.5 mm pin spacing.
The shield of the cables is connected to the bike chassis ( battery ground ) through the red clip and the others tap into two of the four wires.
And a closeup of the connectors;
This way i can get easy access to the connections
The two inner wires connect to coil 1 and the outside wires connect to coil2, i think i used yellow and orange
RE: About the problem of high idling. (2014 cb1100ex) - GoldOxide_imp - 06-14-2022
Very good max. Tanks.
RE: About the problem of high idling. (2014 cb1100ex) - Lord Popgun - 06-14-2022
Nice little handheld scope Max. I want one of these: https://www.tek.com/en/products/oscilloscopes/2-series-mso
They have been spamming my email about the new series. Its working but I'm not getting one. Wonder if they take Apple pay...
RE: About the problem of high idling. (2014 cb1100ex) - max - 06-15-2022
Yeah, i've watched several videos with an initial review, it looks daunting to me and the quick start guide is 331 easy pages.
It also requires 24 volts at 2.5 amps with a proprietary dc connector, so not very portable without the optional battery back assembly.
This little handheld thing falls definitely in the toy category and in true chinese fashion was unstable until i added a 100 ohm resistor to one of the i2c data lines......
but it runs for 5 hours on a built-in battery and it is practical to use for some things except in outdoor light.
it does not have the automotive capture facility that the hs402 has, that scope tablet is nice for analyzing engine performance and i play with it with various transducers and that is satisfying, i watch a lot of automotive diagnostic video's, ATS's Bernie thompson is fascinating to watch with his e-scope tablet.
My use of scopes is very sporadic and i have no training with them but they are able to show me what i want to know so they get used from time to time
RE: About the problem of high idling. (2014 cb1100ex) - GoldOxide_imp - 06-15-2022
(06-15-2022, 12:38 AM)max_imp Wrote: Yeah, i've watched several videos with an initial review, it looks daunting to me and the quick start guide is 331 easy pages.
It also requires 24 volts at 2.5 amps with a proprietary dc connector, so not very portable without the optional battery back assembly.
This little handheld thing falls definitely in the toy category and in true chinese fashion was unstable until i added a 100 ohm resistor to one of the i2c data lines......
but it runs for 5 hours on a built-in battery and it is practical to use for some things except in outdoor light.
it does not have the automotive capture facility that the hs402 has, that scope tablet is nice for analyzing engine performance and i play with it with various transducers and that is satisfying, i watch a lot of automotive diagnostic video's, ATS's Bernie thompson is fascinating to watch with his e-scope tablet.
My use of scopes is very sporadic and i have no training with them but they are able to show me what i want to know so they get used from time to time
That seems to be the role of an oscilloscope: Burst need, then collect dust until the next burst need.
That said, these days (2010 and beyond) having a scope in the house seems to be the "new essential DVM" given the continuous growing complexity of current day electronics that are typically "none-serviceable".
A modern home HVAC is another example where three-phases feeds are emulated electronically to drive a blower motor efficiently. Another is evaluating a failing gas valve, and the signal commands they are receiving / statuses transmitting.
Seems to make sense to have the tool around the CB1100 if you have the time to understand technology and likely save some $$ doing so. In other words: The bar for tinkering with system electronics is higher today than in the 1960s - for sure (although I think tinkering with tube electronics is still a pain in the butt).
RE: About the problem of high idling. (2014 cb1100ex) - dave - 06-15-2022
It is a shame Honda does not do something about it, as it has thoroughly destroyed any confidence I had in Honda products.
I know EXACTLY how you feel. I have owned about 12 - 15 different Honda motorcycles in my lifetime and have thoroughly enjoyed all of them. However, the response Honda has provided for CB1100 owners just leaves a very bad taste in my mouth. I have only experienced one other warranty related issue with a new Honda product I purchased, and unfortunately it was a challenge to receive satisfaction from Honda for this repair also - but I eventually did.
RE: About the problem of high idling. (2014 cb1100ex) - Nachodaddy - 06-15-2022
(06-15-2022, 06:04 AM)Dave_imp Wrote: It is a shame Honda does not do something about it, as it has thoroughly destroyed any confidence I had in Honda products.
I know EXACTLY how you feel. I have owned about 12 - 15 different Honda motorcycles in my lifetime and have thoroughly enjoyed all of them. However, the response Honda has provided for CB1100 owners just leaves a very bad taste in my mouth. I have only experienced one other warranty related issue with a new Honda product I purchased, and unfortunately it was a challenge to receive satisfaction from Honda for this repair also - but I eventually did.
RE: About the problem of high idling. (2014 cb1100ex) - GoldOxide_imp - 06-15-2022
(06-15-2022, 06:04 AM)Dave_imp Wrote: It is a shame Honda does not do something about it, as it has thoroughly destroyed any confidence I had in Honda products.
I know EXACTLY how you feel. I have owned about 12 - 15 different Honda motorcycles in my lifetime and have thoroughly enjoyed all of them. However, the response Honda has provided for CB1100 owners just leaves a very bad taste in my mouth. I have only experienced one other warranty related issue with a new Honda product I purchased, and unfortunately it was a challenge to receive satisfaction from Honda for this repair also - but I eventually did.
The warranty experience is not just limited to the Honda CB1100.
I think Honda is desperately clinging onto their overall reliability across the product lines and playing the numbers game as long as they can, and at the expense of individual owner grievances.
RE: About the problem of high idling. (2014 cb1100ex) - max - 06-15-2022
Just noticed partsfish has new part numbers for the pgm fi , wonder if would fix our problem?
2013;
https://www.partsfish.com/oemparts/a/hon/511a8dcef870022e4ccd3265/wire-harness
and 2014;
https://www.partsfish.com/oemparts/a/hon/52f28c10f870021404ec5a50/wire-harness
RE: About the problem of high idling. (2014 cb1100ex) - Nachodaddy - 06-16-2022
(06-15-2022, 10:55 PM)max_imp Wrote: Just noticed partsfish has new part numbers for the pgm fi , wonder if would fix our problem?Well, it is expensive, but would be worth it if it did the job. More money down the drain if not. Have to look at their return policy. Thanks Max.
2013;
https://www.partsfish.com/oemparts/a/hon/511a8dcef870022e4ccd3265/wire-harness
and 2014;
https://www.partsfish.com/oemparts/a/hon/52f28c10f870021404ec5a50/wire-harness