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RE: No 2015 - Olyrider - 06-15-2015
I am good friends with my local dealer since he was 14 (40 years ago). He was one of the hangers around, when I worked at the shop. He grew up and bought the business and he's pretty forthright when it comes to answering my never ending questions about what's happening in the industry. Of the bikes you and I have talked about, the CB's are the only ones that he has sold at least 5 of in the last 2 years. I think he has sold 8 or 9 CB's. He has 2 left. VFR's, CTX's, anything DCT, CTX's, F6B's, Valkries ... he throws a party when he can sell 1 of any of those. He special ordered my ST 1300. Wouldn't carry those either. Sells mostly Honda cruisers, some sport bikes, quite a few scooters, and lots of atv's.
He also is a very successful Yamaha dealer, but the same lines sell well for that brand here too. I think he sold 15 FZ-09's , but not many FJR's.
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We service many of the ST13's for local and state LEO's. So ST's are fairly popular. Mine usually draws comments when I ride it to work. Yes, ATV's are big sellers for us. The PNW has many more Goldwingers than the Midwest...for obvious reasons. Our VFR800 is a DLX, and no one has ever asked for a test ride. We offer test rides on anything. And it is seriously marked down. We're almost across the street from Joint Base Lewis Mchord so a lot of crotch rockets for the thrill-seekers. But the prudent few have been getting the 300's and 500's.
RE: No 2015 - Django - 06-15-2015
In Germany, 2015 they still sell the CB1100 EX, but no other model of the CB1100 any more:
http://de.honda.de/motorraeder/modelle_cb1100_ex.php
And list price of the EX is 1,000 Euro less than last year. It's the price of the standard (including combined ABS here) of last year.
RE: No 2015 - drodg33 - 06-16-2015
I love that picture of the EX and CB750 together.
RE: No 2015 - cbdtran_imp - 06-16-2015
(06-14-2015, 01:17 AM)Olyrider_imp Wrote:(06-13-2015, 09:11 PM)DAC_imp Wrote: Might be jumping to conclusions. But I also said "sold" - not "made."
Yesterday we sold our last CB, a 2013 Std, for about $1,200 less than we paid for it almost two years ago. Even IF honda released a 2016 CB, do you really think we would order any? We sold five of them in two years...two to the same person. I am not a salesperson, but as a very enthusiastic owner of a CB I was never able to interest a customer in one.
I am content to be the happy owner of a very rare bike. In fact, I like it that way. I do believe our bikes will hold their value quite well because of their build quality, reliability, user friendliness, factory support and fun factor.
As a dealership, we've moved on. Now we're excited about the upcoming CRF1000L.
Honda did a marketing study for their CB in 2012 and concluded it would be a small. They are right
RE: No 2015 - Toro5xi_imp - 06-19-2015
I have to say I don't understand why the CB is not selling better. I have to conclude it is price. I almost bought the FZ 9 but just felt the CB fit me better. Most of the people I ride with grew up on standards and think the CB looks fantastic but somewhat expensive, unfortunately I paid close to retail in 2014 but felt the bike fit me perfectly.
The CB may appeal to the so called geezer crowd of which I am one, but I also have a 93 Kawasaki ZX7, 70 SL350 as well as a 2013 Bonneville. The CB is just so versatile it would probably be the bike I would keep if I had to get rid of all the others. I really find something appealing in most of the bikes today from crotch rockets to cruisers and just can't understand why the standard motorcycle model does not find a wider audience. As much as I think some of the full fairing bikes are beautiful I like seeing the mechanical workings of the motorcycle.
I hope Honda does not give up on this bike. I think if they lightened it up slightly and added a few more horsepower they may attract a few more buyers. I think the CB is similar to the air/oil cooled Bandit which sold well for several years but did have more horsepower.
I had a Bandit 1200 and found the power fantastic and slightly faster than the CB but it was not as smooth in my opinion. The CB almost feels electric in comparison and has been utterly reliable. The Bonneville is nice to ride as well but has consistently given me starting issues, although it never failed to start. I guess I am just trying to say I agree with the comments made about the engineering and quality of Honda motorcycles. Over the years I had mostly Yamahas and Suzukis but never a modern Honda. I am sure fuel injection has a lot to do with it but I am so impressed with how well the CB can be lugged at lower RPMs. Sorry to ramble on.
RE: No 2015 - Motogeezer1949_imp - 06-19-2015
IMO, if the issue was price, I think all the heavily discounted leftovers I've located on Craigslist would be gone. There's maybe one leftover DLX that I found. I just don't think there's much of a market for them. I'm glad I found a DLX when I did, a year ago, still in the crate. I'm not lamenting they're "gone". Never say never!
RE: No 2015 - Toro5xi_imp - 06-19-2015
I agree the market for these bikes must be small these days. It makes me feel like I am out of touch as the standard motorcycle has always appealed to me. I have test ridden Polaris cruisers and found them to be very comfortable but they are just not the type of bikes I grew up with. Trying to fight off old age I guess.
RE: No 2015 - flynrider - 06-19-2015
(06-19-2015, 11:10 AM)Toro5xi_imp Wrote: I agree the market for these bikes must be small these days. It makes me feel like I am out of touch as the standard motorcycle has always appealed to me. I have test ridden Polaris cruisers and found them to be very comfortable but they are just not the type of bikes I grew up with. Trying to fight off old age I guess.
Since bikes began to become more specialized around the mid 80s, I lost interest. A standard bike can be a commuter, a highway cruiser, a canyon carver or whatever you want. And it seats two comfortably. I much prefer an all-purpose motorcycle to one designed for a particular kind of riding. Standards are the only type of bike I've ever owned since I bought my first KZ in 1980. In the rest of the world, where bikes are used as regular transportation, the standard bike is alive and well.
I think it's not you or me that is out of touch, but the North American motorcycle consumer.
RE: No 2015 - Cormanus - 06-19-2015
Interestingly, I can find only 2 for sale on the main Australian bike sales website.
RE: No 2015 - JustPassinThru_imp - 06-20-2015
(06-19-2015, 11:10 AM)Toro5xi_imp Wrote: I agree the market for these bikes must be small these days. It makes me feel like I am out of touch as the standard motorcycle has always appealed to me. I have test ridden Polaris cruisers and found them to be very comfortable but they are just not the type of bikes I grew up with. Trying to fight off old age I guess.
I don't like the crouched crotch-rocket riding position - no reason for it, and it's not easy for an older rider. And then there is all the "tupperware" cladding...you hit road debris or drop it, it's going to cost.
And the cruiser position...this is seldom mentioned, but it puts ALL your weight on your hips and tailbone. You cannot raise up on the pegs, as you can with an upright riding position.
So, I'm pleased with the UJM format. Sadly, few others are...and I guess the only options for us old-timers, outside of this, are dual-sports or vintage bikes.
It is what it is. In twenty years it won't matter to me; and with luck I'll have the CB until then.