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RE: Would the CB been more of a "success" if there had been more ABS bikes? - dwcurton_imp - 08-22-2016
I agree that the CB has to reach out and grab you. ABS was a non-issue for me. I think the bigger deal was these bikes were not advertised very well at all. After I bought my 2014 standard, I showed it around to some friends, all avid riders, and the most common comments were
"what is it?"
"How old is it?"
"Is that new?" and
"I didn't know they were making those again!".
If these guys had no idea that the CB's were sitting in dealerships for sale, then no wonder dealerships weren't selling them.
RE: Would the CB been more of a "success" if there had been more ABS bikes? - emptysea - 08-22-2016
I think it was all about price. If either version of the CB1100 was $1000 cheaper, more would have been out the door. Of course, that is just speculation, but then again, a good 95% of this thread is speculation, or worse.
RE: Would the CB been more of a "success" if there had been more ABS bikes? - Capo - 08-22-2016
No, in 2013 when it was launched in the US, ABS was still not a must- have, and the CB's primary competitors either didn't offer it or offered it as an option. The CB was too expensive, marketed poorly, launched with minimal fanfare to moto- journalists, unsupported by dealers, and offered too few factory accessories. A textbook case of blowing a product launch.
RE: Would the CB been more of a "success" if there had been more ABS bikes? - kmoney_imp - 08-22-2016
I never really cared about ABS or not, I just bought the ABS version because there was one bike to choose from.
It's going to be a non-sequitur soon, as with ABS being mandatory on all bikes over 250cc in Europe, many manufacturers are just adding it to all their bikes worldwide to simplify production.
RE: Would the CB been more of a "success" if there had been more ABS bikes? - RockHop_imp - 08-22-2016
(08-22-2016, 03:20 AM)kmoney_imp Wrote: I never really cared about ABS or not, I just bought the ABS version because there was one bike to choose from.
It's going to be a non-sequitur soon, as with ABS being mandatory on all bikes over 250cc in Europe, many manufacturers are just adding it to all their bikes worldwide to simplify production.
Not a problem.. After lamenting the loss of our right to choose whether we want ABS or not, we'll simply shift gears and start debating the merits of traction control.
RE: Would the CB been more of a "success" if there had been more ABS bikes? - Ulvetanna_imp - 08-22-2016
(08-22-2016, 01:57 AM)dwcurton_imp Wrote: I agree that the CB has to reach out and grab you. ABS was a non-issue for me. I think the bigger deal was these bikes were not advertised very well at all. After I bought my 2014 standard, I showed it around to some friends, all avid riders, and the most common comments wereThose sound familiar...
"what is it?"
"How old is it?"
"Is that new?" and
"I didn't know they were making those again!".
If these guys had no idea that the CB's were sitting in dealerships for sale, then no wonder dealerships weren't selling them.
RE: Would the CB been more of a "success" if there had been more ABS bikes? - emptysea - 08-22-2016
(08-22-2016, 04:07 AM)RockHop_imp Wrote:(08-22-2016, 03:20 AM)kmoney_imp Wrote: I never really cared about ABS or not, I just bought the ABS version because there was one bike to choose from.
It's going to be a non-sequitur soon, as with ABS being mandatory on all bikes over 250cc in Europe, many manufacturers are just adding it to all their bikes worldwide to simplify production.
Not a problem.. After lamenting the loss of our right to choose whether we want ABS or not, we'll simply shift gears and start debating the merits of traction control.
Not a problem.. After lamenting the loss of our right to choose whether we want ABS or not, we'll simply shift gears and start debating the merits of traction control.
Exactly! LOL
RE: Would the CB been more of a "success" if there had been more ABS bikes? - Rebel73_imp - 08-22-2016
After reading the stats that you are 33% less likely to be involved in a fatal accident if your bike has ABS, plus the added dual pipes and bigger tank of the DLX, it was non-negotiable for me.
RE: Would the CB been more of a "success" if there had been more ABS bikes? - RockHop_imp - 08-22-2016
(08-22-2016, 08:24 AM)Rebel73_imp Wrote: After reading the stats that you are 33% less likely to be involved in a fatal accident if your bike has ABS, plus the added dual pipes and bigger tank of the DLX, it was non-negotiable for me.
Hmmmm
Although I'm definitely in favor of ABS, I'm also a little skeptical of stats such as these. I suspect the demographics of those with ABS and those without tend to be different. Those differences can include age, experience, types of bikes, speeds at which they ride, tendency to both afford and wear protective gear, etc. These factors probably skew the fatality stats in favor of ABS riders, regardless of whether the ABS actually engaged.
RE: Would the CB been more of a "success" if there had been more ABS bikes? - the Ferret - 08-22-2016
A sister in law in the insurance business told me a few years ago Volvos were reported as very safe cars, so people that leaned more toward safety and less toward risky behavior tended to buy them. Safe drivers made the cars stats seem safer.