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RE: 2018 IMS - Chicago - emptysea - 02-12-2018
(02-12-2018, 12:14 AM)Cormanus_imp Wrote:(02-11-2018, 12:14 PM)EmptySea_imp Wrote: Better on the GS, for sure, but my Honda guy, Jeff, was at the show and giving her the hard sell on the Wing with DCT. He contends, and I don't disagree, that the DCT could be very beneficial for her especially at low speeds. He also thinks that the regular Goldwing (no top case) is a much better motorcycle on the road than the Touring model.
May I ask 'why' to both statements?
May I ask 'why' to both statements?
Why DCT? You twist on throttle a little bit and the bike changes to the right gear all the time, every time. For someone with a little less strength, this means no concern about the bike stalling and having to recover using their body weight. The DCT on this bike (which, according to Jeff, is a new generation of DCT for Honda and only available on the Wing) shifts faster and smoother than (I'll say "nearly") any human can shift. It has a 'manual' mode along with the sport and whatever other modes you can choose.
Why Jeff liked the standard Wing? We didn't get into this much, but he said the bike just felt better. He supposed that top case with built-in back rest adds a little weight; not much, but not in a good place - high and over the rear suspension. He didn't say the Touring edition was bad at all and certainly it would be better for 2-up riding, but that the standard set up seemed to handle better and be more responsive.
Looks like the Goldwing is about 30lbs lighter than the GW Tour. Not much, but then again, that top case could have another 30lbs or more inside it.
RE: 2018 IMS - Chicago - Cormanus - 02-12-2018
Thanks EmptySea and Ferret. I'd be interested to ride a DCT bike sometime. Certainly the automatic transmission in many cars has improved remarkably in recent years.
RE: 2018 IMS - Chicago - Nortoon_imp - 02-12-2018
(02-12-2018, 01:24 AM)The ferret_imp Wrote: Good eye Nortoon I totally missed that. i was looking for an orange tank, not a chrome one as the giveaway.
(02-12-2018, 12:14 AM)Cormanus_imp Wrote:(02-11-2018, 12:14 PM)EmptySea_imp Wrote: Better on the GS, for sure, but my Honda guy, Jeff, was at the show and giving her the hard sell on the Wing with DCT. He contends, and I don't disagree, that the DCT could be very beneficial for her especially at low speeds. He also thinks that the regular Goldwing (no top case) is a much better motorcycle on the road than the Touring model.
May I ask 'why' to both statements?
May I ask 'why' to both statements?
Cormanus.. as far as the DCT trans, it is always in the right gear, you can't stall it, can't take off in the wrong gear, and you can concentrate on riding without thinking about the mechanics of shifting. Taking off uphill, stop and go traffic, not having to judge when to downshift for a curve vs rpms etc
As to why the F6B looking model would be a better tourer I have no idea where that's coming from. Basically same bike without a top box, and I don't think the tour is much heavier than the non tour model.
The Interceptor caught my eye the first time I saw videos of it. It reminds me of my BSA Lightnings. It has that beautiful 1960s British twin sound to it, and weights 100 pounds less that the CB1100 EX.
RE: 2018 IMS - Chicago - LongRanger_imp - 02-12-2018
So MTC, Honda is claiming the new GW is about 90 lbs lighter than the outgoing model. Are they talking about the standard GW or the Tour?
The DCT has a "D" and "N" rocker switch at the right thumb. You punch it into "D" after you start the bike and want to take off. It also has a parking brake, which is actuated by a ratcheting lever located on the LHS fairing, about knee level. It's pretty cool. If I were to buy the bike, DCT would be my preference. Not unlike buying an automatic Accord vs. a stick. Just put it into "D" and go.
RE: 2018 IMS - Chicago - emptysea - 02-12-2018
Per Honda’s website: 2017 GW is 933lbs. 2018 GW with DCT is 800lbs. 2018 Touring with DCT is 847lbs.
The 2017 can be as light as 900lbs. The 2018s without DCT are about 15lbs lighter than those with DCT. I’m sure there’s some combination of old and new that adds to a 90lb difference.
2018 IMS - Chicago - greekcb_imp - 02-13-2018
Hey empty looks like a good time. I was supposed to go but worked through the piles of snow we were getting . Hey did you happen to see the new enfield interceptor ?
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RE: 2018 IMS - Chicago - emptysea - 02-13-2018
(02-13-2018, 12:53 AM)greekcb_imp Wrote: Hey empty looks like a good time. I was supposed to go but worked through the piles of snow we were getting . Hey did you happen to see the new enfield interceptor ?
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I only live a few miles from Rosemont, so getting to the show was comparatively easy. Sorry you missed it.
As a matter of fact, I did "happen to see" the new Enfield Interceptor. I just didn't realize that I had until Nortoon pointed it out to me earlier in this thread. I was too busy getting "artsy" with my photo to even realize what I was looking at. LOL
2018 IMS - Chicago - greekcb_imp - 02-13-2018
(02-13-2018, 02:04 AM)EmptySea_imp Wrote:(02-13-2018, 12:53 AM)greekcb_imp Wrote: Hey empty looks like a good time. I was supposed to go but worked through the piles of snow we were getting . Hey did you happen to see the new enfield interceptor ?
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I only live a few miles from Rosemont, so getting to the show was comparatively easy. Sorry you missed it.
As a matter of fact, I did "happen to see" the new Enfield Interceptor. I just didn't realize that I had until Nortoon pointed it out to me earlier in this thread. I was too busy getting "artsy" with my photo to even realize what I was looking at. LOL
I only live a few miles from Rosemont, so getting to the show was comparatively easy. Sorry you missed it.
As a matter of fact, I did "happen to see" the new Enfield Interceptor. I just didn't realize that I had until Nortoon pointed it out to me earlier in this thread. I was too busy getting "artsy" with my photo to even realize what I was looking at. LOL
Haha you know I was wondering if that was it lol . I just got back from the auto show , yearly ritual. At least I got to do that
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