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RE: superbrace installed... - Lord Popgun - 04-03-2014
Ferret asked Superbrace if there was a problem and their answer is in the Sponser section. They said it fits ABS and NON ABS and does not interfere with anything.
Edited to say: does NOT interfer with anything. Thanks for catching that Xpacpal1x.
RE: superbrace installed... - xpacpal1x_imp - 04-03-2014
I am using Superbrace with 2013 CB1100 ABS, there is no problem...extra ABS plumbing does not get in the way, and the brace itself does not affect the ABS function, period.
RE: superbrace installed... - Lord Popgun - 04-04-2014
Xpacpal1x is correct. I corrected my post to reflect that- fat fingered the keyboard I guess
Thanks Xpacpal1x.
RE: superbrace installed... - The Spaceman_imp - 04-05-2014
I just did about 40 miles with the SB installed. It definitely puts more rigidity in the fork, but I'm not sure that its a "good rigid.". It actually feels a bit harsh.
On the VStrom with its long, spindlly forks, the SB was transformative. I'm not so sure yet if its a benefit to the CB.
It sure looks cool though...
RE: superbrace installed... - The Spaceman_imp - 04-06-2014
Ok, an update on my last post after 320 miles with the SUUUUUPER BRAAAACE installed: Spaceman Approved!
Yes, it does take some of the luxury out of the CB's ride. But the overall improvement in tracking through curves and stability in corners more than makes up for it. I never really know how much the improvement from a change like this is psychosematic and how much is real, but there's definitely a perceived improvement. And it gives the front end a great new look.
RE: superbrace installed... - the Ferret - 04-06-2014
"but there's definitely a perceived improvement"
isn't that psychosomatic?
RE: superbrace installed... - Red Mist_imp - 04-06-2014
Kanji is just Chinese. I happen to know a translator. If you can do a screenshot I'll get it translated for ya.
-Red (Breck is napping now)
(04-05-2014, 12:10 AM)The Spaceman_imp Wrote: I just did about 40 miles with the SB installed. It definitely puts more rigidity in the fork, but I'm not sure that its a "good rigid.". It actually feels a bit harsh.You are spot-on about that. With the SV, it's apparently mandatory, but on the CB1100, not so much. The CB's got BIG fork tubes and beefy triples. I'd never consider a fork brace for the CB1100 on the face of it, with that front end, for regular street riding.
On the VStrom with its long, spindlly forks, the SB was transformative. I'm not so sure yet if its a benefit to the CB.
It sure looks cool though...
However it may be that if one is riding the thing hard, and also modifies the suspension, the fork brace may work in conjunction with that to firm up the handling and make the bike more precise and less of a rocking horse in the faster sweepers.
My personal speed limit on the road (with the exception of the occasional quick twist on the freeway) is about 65 mph, and I certainly don't like the CB1100 in fast sweepers, meaning 60+ mph. I like the CB pretty well as it is although -- and I realize this might sound vain but it's perfectly true -- the CB is very, very easy to touch down after hopping off a real high-performance motorcycle. It happens "by accident", I just roll her into a turn and "scrape/whoops, I'm not on a superbike, what was I thinking..."
What I'm saying is the CB is pretty plush overall and it's best suited for light sport riding at sub-60 mph speeds and moderate lean angles. Stiffening the fork, as Spaceman indicated, is going to make things more rigid overall.
The fork is designed to absorb bumps by compressing when the bike is vertical, and by "flexing" when the bike is leaned significantly. The rider's input has a lot to do with how the bike is going to respond under these circumstances and as the CB is really a very low-tech bike with respect to chassis and suspension, it responds well to "body steering".
If you do the fork brace, best to consider being careful about setting up the front suspension, and to replace the oingo-boingo shocks with something better, because the stiffer front end will send that energy into the chassis. It doesn't just disappear, there's nowhere else for it to go.
-Red
(Breck is eating 3 dozen eggs and six T-Bone steaks and washing it down with about a gallon of coffee, and Cap'n Kidd is chomping a few buckets of oats and a couple bales of alfalfa).
(04-06-2014, 09:41 AM)The ferret_imp Wrote: "but there's definitely a perceived improvement"No, that would be an "imagined" improvement, or considering it's "Spaceman", perhaps an "hallucinated" improvement!
isn't that psychosomatic?
Pyscho: mind
Soma: body
Spirit: somewhere in between
RE: superbrace installed... - Mr Jangles_imp - 08-04-2014
The SB fits just fine on my 2014 dlx with abs just fine. I did not notice the harsher suspension ride, I have my pre load set at the middle line.