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RE: Battery question - Rocky_imp - 09-29-2019
(09-29-2019, 07:15 PM)Destindoc_imp Wrote: These bikes come from Japan in a crate, you mean a battery is in the bike from the factory? I would had thought all these bikes had to have a battery added at the dealer during prep? I bought a zero mile 2014 in 2018... battery hasn't been an issue. I did change the brake/clutch fluid, it was dark... I've seen bikes on the showroom floor without batteries in them... salesmen tell me they don't put batteries in until the bike is sold...
My '14 had no battery when it was delivered to the dealer. I happened to be hanging around the showroom the day it arrived. Only two were allotted to the dealer so I had to put up or shut up
They fitted a new Yuasa battery and added an Optimate pigtail free of charge.
That original battery is still strong, but I'm keeping an eye on it.
RE: Battery question - GoldOxide_imp - 09-29-2019
(09-29-2019, 07:49 PM)Rocky_imp Wrote:(09-29-2019, 07:15 PM)Destindoc_imp Wrote: These bikes come from Japan in a crate, you mean a battery is in the bike from the factory? I would had thought all these bikes had to have a battery added at the dealer during prep? I bought a zero mile 2014 in 2018... battery hasn't been an issue. I did change the brake/clutch fluid, it was dark... I've seen bikes on the showroom floor without batteries in them... salesmen tell me they don't put batteries in until the bike is sold...
My '14 had no battery when it was delivered to the dealer. I happened to be hanging around the showroom the day it arrived. Only two were allotted to the dealer so I had to put up or shut up
They fitted a new Yuasa battery and added an Optimate pigtail free of charge.
That original battery is still strong, but I'm keeping an eye on it.
My '14 had no battery when it was delivered to the dealer. I happened to be hanging around the showroom the day it arrived. Only two were allotted to the dealer so I had to put up or shut up
They fitted a new Yuasa battery and added an Optimate pigtail free of charge.
That original battery is still strong, but I'm keeping an eye on it.
I don't how they come these days, especially given many use AGM batteries. In the earlier times new crated bikes would include a dry lead-acid battery that had to be set-up and charged by the dealer.
Most dealers I know do not install the battery on show room bikes, unless they are often demo'ed like, for example, the Gold Wings.
RE: Battery question - peterbaron - 09-29-2019
(09-29-2019, 09:37 AM)warman_imp Wrote: Bought a leftover 2014 (new) in April of 2017. Should I look at my battery as 5 years old or two and a half years old?
Do a proper AVR/battery test, which will tell you about its health and entire charging system.
For my 213 and 2014, both batteries lasted about 5 years, while properly maintained off seasons.
RE: Battery question - max - 09-30-2019
Goldoxide is right on the money again, honda ships the bike with everything tested , that means the engine has run, shifted through the gears on a roller bank, lights tested etc and that includes the ( disconnected ) battery ( shown 5 minutes into the video ) in place.
All that the dealer needs to do is remove the crate, mount some hardware like mirrors that come in a separate box, maybe add some fuel and that's it;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMpgS9zO6o0
Our bikes are manufactured in the hamamatsu factory and tested like this;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZ_p_ICueaY
Activating a battery means adding the acid with the right specific gravity to the battery, this is not even possible with an agm battery, they leave the factory charged and ready to run, they also have a better shelf life and usually last longer than a "wet" battery.
From experience in my bikes the wet batteries never lasted longer than one and a half years, but the agm ones ave been good for 4 years now and still going, it's a big improvement.
RE: Battery question - GoldOxide_imp - 09-30-2019
(09-29-2019, 10:40 PM)peterbaron_imp Wrote:(09-29-2019, 09:37 AM)warman_imp Wrote: Bought a leftover 2014 (new) in April of 2017. Should I look at my battery as 5 years old or two and a half years old?
Do a proper AVR/battery test, which will tell you about its health and entire charging system.
For my 213 and 2014, both batteries lasted about 5 years, while properly maintained off seasons.
This is exactly my experience under PB's said conditions for my '14 CB1100.
Thx Max. Nice find regarding the Hamamatsu factory ...
(09-30-2019, 01:48 AM)max_imp Wrote: Goldoxide is right on the money again, honda ships the bike with everything tested , that means the engine has run, shifted through the gears on a roller bank, lights tested etc and that includes the ( disconnected ) battery ( shown 5 minutes into the video ) in place.
All that the dealer needs to do is remove the crate, mount some hardware like mirrors that come in a separate box, maybe add some fuel and that's it;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMpgS9zO6o0
Our bikes are manufactured in the hamamatsu factory and tested like this;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZ_p_ICueaY
Activating a battery means adding the acid with the right specific gravity to the battery, this is not even possible with an agm battery, they leave the factory charged and ready to run, they also have a better shelf life and usually last longer than a "wet" battery.
From experience in my bikes the wet batteries never lasted longer than one and a half years, but the agm ones ave been good for 4 years now and still going, it's a big improvement.
RE: Battery question - LongRanger_imp - 09-30-2019
Great video, thanks. I wonder where I can get one of those green Honda factory caps.
RE: Battery question - Cormanus - 09-30-2019
Max, I think our bikes are manufactured at Kumamoto. Hence the “K” in the VIN. It’s still an interesting video.
RE: Battery question - the Ferret - 09-30-2019
Cool vid.
RE: Battery question - max - 09-30-2019
You're right Cormanus, i always get confused between the two.
RE: Battery question - warman_imp - 10-13-2019
Been two weeks since I ask the question about batteries in leftover motorcycles and yesterday she wouldn’t start. I’d been busy (as usual) and hadn’t gotten around to replacing it.
Wished I had. Spent $126 on a no name O’reilly battery with a short warranty.
Surprised i had any warning at all. Seems in the last twenty years or so batteries give no warning at all.