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RE: Harley adventure bike - Paulb_imp - 03-25-2016
(03-25-2016, 07:16 AM)ClassicVW_imp Wrote: Harley should just stick with what they do well. Oh wait, change that to "what's been working for them."
90% of all Harleys made in the past 15 years are still on the road... The other 10% made it back home.
Very good, I wish I'd said that, but then I probably will.
RE: Harley adventure bike - redbirds_imp - 03-25-2016
According to Clement Salvadori, all motorcycles are adventure bikes and every ride an adventure. The limit being how much adventure you wish to have.
RE: Harley adventure bike - Hondahawkrider_imp - 03-26-2016
The adv market has been one off the up and coming market segments..
The buell Ulysses wasn't a bad bike, they got out too soon, rumors were it was going to get the wc'd bike, before Hd pulled the plug on buell.
The 750 is actually not bad, but it's dealers load it down with "extras" which jacks the price.. Find a stripper ( the bike ) and its a good bike (if you get used, get the brakes updated).. It was also made for overseas markets, basically a smaller urban bike.. The sell it here in the us primarily for inseemed challenged folks, and to replace the buell as an entry level bike
I'll bet it's make a decent power plant for a adv bike.. Buell made due with an older engine and it turned out ok..
Harley adventure bike - kmoney_imp - 03-26-2016
The one thing that will be awesome about a Harley ADV is that it would come with basically the best dealer support network out there, awesome for service or breakdowns on long trips.
Still...
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RE: Harley adventure bike - 4 Paws_imp - 03-27-2016
Heard RTW Doug speak at a motorcycle show one winter, interesting fellow. Customized a Sportster, his way, and rode it around the work. Still rides exotic places, on Harley. Have seen pictures of and write ups on dual sporting Harley's, some folks know their stuff.
Not my first choice, or second, .........
Harley has to do something to stay relevant. Hate to see them become just another Old Navy mall store.
RE: Harley adventure bike - Hondahawkrider_imp - 03-28-2016
if Harley needs to stay relevant they need to do more than create a adv bike
They had one with the Ulysses and if it would have gotten the 1125 water cooled motor it would have been a solid rtw bike, as it was the air cooled one wasn't bad, but there weren't that many adv bike when it was available ... I used to have a ktm990adv and I still have a 620egs-e (basically the low pipe adventure - it was the bike ktm ran in the Dakar).. The problem is now there are a lot more big adv bike to pick, ktm adv, bmw gs, triumph, Yamaha, etc...
I personally think Harley is in trouble now...
Late last year I got my first Harley (shocker I know). I got it for around town stuff and to hopefully flip (my cb is for more fun twisted stuff). Only reason I got it was a coworker was getting out of riding, his 13 year old Harley was mint with low miles, and he sold to me for about 1/2 retail.. I figured if I rode it with a for sale sign and I could make a nice profit.. I thought wrong. The offers and going price was pretty close to what I paid (admittedly it was end of the season).
Here's the problem, my 13 year old dyna wide glide with the 88ci is for all intensive purposes looks like a 2016 dyna, minus some little changes.. However, in the last 13 years, Harley has punched out their engines (96ci 103ci 110ci).
So if you have someone looking for more punch, folks are going to go newer..
So while it's good for the HD dealerships, the dropping price and dropping demand for used bikes is going to dilute the brand.. Keep in mind that HD sells a lifestyle. Their bikes Have or used to have a cache with ownership. It used to not matter what year you used to own.. If now you gotta have a "newer" one, kinda the way the sportbike crowd has to update their bikes every few year to be "cool". It's going to eventually be an issue
If HD loses this in the used bike market, and they become just another used bike in the market, sure they will get some $ for those who update every few years, but their going to lose out on sales of jackets, tshirts, and the aftermarket companies will lose $ in the long run as it won't be lifestyle anymore in the long run.
RE: Harley adventure bike - rboe - 03-28-2016
Looks like Harley's exceptional run is over; while some will buy for the image, they will have to back things up with a performing product now (in many respects they have improved their product, just need some more improvements).
It was fun while it lasted.
RE: Harley adventure bike - gossman_imp - 03-28-2016
As much as some people may claim different, Harley's still the bike to own. Their biggest issue is they are pricing themselves out of many new buyers range, and today's new riders aren't into buying sub liter rides. They need to stabilize the price even with the improving economy.
RE: Harley adventure bike - the Ferret - 03-29-2016
"As much as some people may claim different, Harley's still the bike to own."
Hmmm... why would you say that?
RE: Harley adventure bike - aschem_imp - 03-29-2016
9 out of 10 street bikes in this part of the US is a Harley and it probably is going to stay that way for a long time