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RE: Rode a DCT bike today - rboe - 02-09-2019
Like the CB, the NX700/750 is not designed to be a sport bike but a frugal commuter. It's aim is squeezing the nickle (and mpg's) so to use sporty metrics is a bit unfair. Unless you are looking to buy sporty then it's fair to blacklist the bike as being outside your needs.
However; I'll note that you do not wring the snot out of your CB so I would consider you a potential NX owner. Maybe you just need to ride one for a couple weeks so it learns how you ride. That big trunk in the "gas tank" seems to be extremely useful.
RE: Rode a DCT bike today - the Ferret - 02-09-2019
Lol you guys do realize this thread is 3 years old.
A lot of old threads are resurfacing lately so some of the op's are no longer around to read new responses. Some of the issues originally stated are no longer issues.
This has been like time travel and deja-vu all over again for me (to quote Yogi Bera.)
RE: Rode a DCT bike today - GoldOxide_imp - 02-09-2019
I believe Honda is being smart by introducing the NC750X to the masses in an attempt to attract new, young riders (e.g. millennials who are said to not be interested in the clutch - like Formula 1 racer I suppose ... not!), and to the senior riding population whose limbs don't respond the way they used to. I think these are reasonable and practical assumptions.
In 2018 Honda raised red line to 7500 RPM, which is better for what the bike is. New torque control together with the existing manual override provide options for those who wish to squeeze the lemon above fuel frugality.
Manual override, multiple torque control options, and the upfront helmet storage appears to be ideas borrowed by the old Aprilia Mana 850 which used essentially a heavy duty and intelligently utilized CVT.
Aprilia had considered using the 750 DOHC Shiver V-twin, but opted for the lower power 839 cc SOHC V-twin (yes, larger engine displacement) that put out about the same hp as the NC750X. The Aprilia Mana also had rear passenger under seat refueling. However, I think Honda's approach to the auto gearbox is a better solution, especially during deceleration approaching the lowest gear. I think both have similar 0 to 60 mph times of about 5.3 seconds.
RE: Rode a DCT bike today - Lord Popgun - 02-09-2019
I noticed that too. I think Gold is trying get his post count up
RE: Rode a DCT bike today - the Ferret - 02-09-2019
He's going to have a higher post cou t than me pretty soon I think lol
RE: Rode a DCT bike today - peterbaron - 02-09-2019
He'll slow down in summer due to riding
RE: Rode a DCT bike today - GoldOxide_imp - 02-09-2019
Hey y'all, I accept these as all constructive feedback.
Yes, I am pretty sure I will run out of interesting thoughts (or not interesting thoughts), and time - as PB is no doubt correct on - and when things thaw for us up here.
RE: Rode a DCT bike today - cblais19_imp - 02-09-2019
It’s interesting looking back at some of the previous page’s conclusions from 2016 post-Africa Twin / Goldwing introduction. Even Honda was surprised at the take rate of the DCT on the Africa Twin and GW. Both of those applications are ideal for the technology - in the AT’s case because in off-road riding you don’t have to worry about gear changes or stalling; in the GW’s case because things are nice and smooth for your pillion (to say nothing about rider demographics...).
Like a bunch of relative sales flops in the US (CB1100 anyone?), the NC700/750 exists for a market that uses their bikes in a very different way then we do over here. If my commute hadn’t shifted to a very brief one, I certainly would’ve gone with either a NC or AT with the DCT for the lovely traffic we have in the DC Metro.
RE: Rode a DCT bike today - GoldOxide_imp - 02-09-2019
(02-09-2019, 12:42 PM)cblais19_imp Wrote: It’s interesting looking back at some of the previous page’s conclusions from 2016 post-Africa Twin / Goldwing introduction. Even Honda was surprised at the take rate of the DCT on the Africa Twin and GW. Both of those applications are ideal for the technology - in the AT’s case because in off-road riding you don’t have to worry about gear changes or stalling; in the GW’s case because things are nice and smooth for your pillion (to say nothing about rider demographics...).
Like a bunch of relative sales flops in the US (CB1100 anyone?), the NC700/750 exists for a market that uses their bikes in a very different way then we do over here. If my commute hadn’t shifted to a very brief one, I certainly would’ve gone with either a NC or AT with the DCT for the lovely traffic we have in the DC Metro.
There is no doubt support for Honda's DCT gearbox implementation has been gaining firm traction. The demographic is changing. Honda has been doing something about it.
Rode a DCT bike today - Cormanus - 02-09-2019
(02-09-2019, 12:19 PM)The ferret_imp Wrote: He's going to have a higher post cou t than me pretty soon I think lol
I was going to say, “Don’t worry, Ferret, he’ll have to get past popgun and me first,” but that no be too much of a challenge unless popgun brings Bubba to the game. You may just have to rely on Sea.