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RE: MOTO GUZZI V85 - the Ferret - 11-09-2017
Want to know about any particular model ( except un released ones) go to their owner forums like this one, or google " issues with Brand X bike".
I've found with most Euro bikes thier owners all love them with the caveat that you have to fix a few things first..or put up with this or that.
Ive only personally known 4 people that have had modern Italian machinery. 3 out of the 4 had enough issues that they traded them in for other bikes of a different brand. The 4 th is stubborn lol
RE: MOTO GUZZI V85 - LongRanger_imp - 11-09-2017
I've been called lots of things, but stubborn isn't one of them! Well, maybe once or twice.
RE: MOTO GUZZI V85 - peterbaron - 11-09-2017
GORGEOUS
looking bike = no doubt about it...and pics are just awesome...but there is NO way it will replace my white CB = worry/trouble free ride...especially now, when already has fallen into winter hibernation...and still snoring.....pb
RE: MOTO GUZZI V85 - Guth_imp - 11-10-2017
Another no vote here. I wouldn't trade a CB1100 for this bike even if it was a straight up swap as this whole class of bikes is just not my thing.
If I were going to entertain the thought of a bike to serve dual purposes I'd personally rather go with something with roots that were a bit more "dirt-based" like a KLR.
RE: MOTO GUZZI V85 - WK57ABF_imp - 11-10-2017
I traded my CB1100 for a Moto Guzzi this spring - a big mistake - difficulty selecting 1st,clunky gearbox,cheap switchgear,leaking final drive bevel gear,leyshaft rattle in neutral,and worst of all the feuelling was dreadful - unable to control revs between 1000 and 3000 resulting in very snatchy performance for city riding.
Finished by returning the bike to the dealer cause they couldn't sort the leaking shaft drive - had to use our consumer rights act/lemon law to get my money and my CB back - never again.
John
It looked a lot better than it performed.
RE: MOTO GUZZI V85 - Banned_imp - 11-10-2017
(11-10-2017, 02:30 AM)WK57ABF_imp Wrote: I traded my CB1100 for a Moto Guzzi this spring - a big mistake - difficulty selecting 1st,clunky gearbox,cheap switchgear,leaking final drive bevel gear,leyshaft rattle in neutral,and worst of all the feuelling was dreadful - unable to control revs between 1000 and 3000 resulting in very snatchy performance for city riding.So you actually got your CB back? I really have my doubts that would have been the outcome here.
Finished by returning the bike to the dealer cause they couldn't sort the leaking shaft drive - had to use our consumer rights act/lemon law to get my money and my CB back - never again.
John
It looked a lot better than it performed.
RE: MOTO GUZZI V85 - WK57ABF_imp - 11-10-2017
Hi W/R - i only got my CB back because they hadn't sold it - i was quite lucky there - I'm also entitled to my money back if goods are of unsatisfactory quality - i think consumer rights law is very similar throughout the world - the deal was my CB and £3000 for the Guzzi V9.
John
RE: MOTO GUZZI V85 - Riko_imp - 11-10-2017
(11-09-2017, 01:33 PM)Banned_imp Wrote: Did they forget the left side rear shock? Looks kind of odd without it.
those weird Italians
(11-09-2017, 01:53 PM)The ferret_imp Wrote: Want to know about any particular model ( except un released ones) go to their owner forums like this one, or google " issues with Brand X bike".
I've found with most Euro bikes thier owners all love them with the caveat that you have to fix a few things first..or put up with this or that.
Ive only personally known 4 people that have had modern Italian machinery. 3 out of the 4 had enough issues that they traded them in for other bikes of a different brand. The 4 th is stubborn lol
I know (real life and on forums-non duc forums) owners of Ducati specifically and non of them talk about major issues.
Most negatives I read about Italian bikes are from thise who didn't own them....and I was one of them.
I've owned my Multi for about 7 months and already rode 5600 miles, only during weekends and during my 3 week holiday.
Bike has been dropped twice (by myself this week
and a friend), been ridden and parked in heavy rain.And most importantly, it has been ridden, ridden hard.
Bike always performed flawless.
Why do people put on the sticker those bikes are unreliable?
I think because of the higher cost of maintenance and build quality of certain parts.
And everything else is hearsay.
Plastic tabs are not strong, there're panel gaps, there too much flex and play.
But I had to change or fix nothing to love this bike.
I added for my thousands of euro's of parts to make it look more bulky, not to fix something
I did add parts wich could be applied on every bike, such as a high screen, comfort seat, to make long distance travel as comfy as possible
If there had to be a major 'fix' it should be the full Termignoni line, because these supposedly makes the bike breath even better, much smoother, so its an upgrade that actually makes a great bike perform even better.
I haven't done this because its costly, the stock pipes look better and I am more than happy with the performance.
So no issues, no problems and it has been used, not your typical Italian dust collector
Only thing, it drank 1.6 liter of oil in that time.
The model is supposedly a thirsty type.
(11-10-2017, 02:30 AM)WK57ABF_imp Wrote: I traded my CB1100 for a Moto Guzzi this spring - a big mistake - difficulty selecting 1st,clunky gearbox,cheap switchgear,leaking final drive bevel gear,leyshaft rattle in neutral,and worst of all the feuelling was dreadful - unable to control revs between 1000 and 3000 resulting in very snatchy performance for city riding.
Finished by returning the bike to the dealer cause they couldn't sort the leaking shaft drive - had to use our consumer rights act/lemon law to get my money and my CB back - never again.
John
It looked a lot better than it performed.
thx for sharing the experience, sorry it didnt work out.
Wich model did you have? Where your issues common for the model, V9?
RE: MOTO GUZZI V85 - the Ferret - 11-10-2017
Riko, didn't you post up this thread about Ducati owners complaining about problems before you bought yours?
http://cb1100forum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=9337
and I seem to recall yours having to go in for some brake work..rotors or something before or just after you bought it? (later on same thread)
I know 3 people that have personally owned Ducatis...all bought brand new ( 2 relatives and a good motorcycling friend for 35 years...my son being one of them). One was a Multistrada. So many issues it got traded in on a KTM. One was a 796 Monster with issues that got traded in on a Triumph Bonneville T120 and the third is my son who has had a ton of issues with his 696 Monster (transmission locked up, electrical failure, oil leak they can't fix, rear brake squeal they can't fix) but he won't get rid of it because his wife bought it for him as a wedding present. He calls it his "Italian Harley" and his "50 mile round trip bike" because he won't ride it more than 50 miles round trip from home. One time he emailed me a link to the Ducati monster forums and 5 of the first 6 threads were from owners whose bikes wouldn't start. No joke!
I know there are guys with Ducati's and Guzzi's and KTMs and Aprilias that run for thousands of trouble free miles (at least their owners claim so), I just don't know anyone personally that has had that kind of luck with one. I think Ducati's are beautiful for the most part, but certainly wouldn't want one in my garage, even if someone were to give it to me for free. I don't care to not trust a motorcycle in my garage, and I'm afraid I couldn't trust a Ducati (or a Moto Guzzi or Aprilia for that matter).
RE: MOTO GUZZI V85 - Riko_imp - 11-10-2017
I did, and everytime I read some kind of misconception about Italian bikes, I'm happy to chime in, as is the case here
rotors were bend from unknown misuse:
http://cb1100forum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=9337&pid=176482#pid176482