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RE: Sometimes Ending Up Between Gears With Gear Indicator Line Blinking - 3rdbike_imp - 05-15-2018

Here's a method that works on just about any motorcycle for a clean positive shift: pre-load the shift lever. As you are going up thru the gears from a stop, place your toe under the shift lever and keep a little bit of pressure on the lever. When you reach your shift point, de-clutch and complete the shift motion. This eliminates that slight delay of moving your toe under the shift lever, then moving it up to contact the shift lever, then completing the shift.

I don't find the need for pre-loading quite so much on down-shifting. Sometimes I think about converting my bikes to a "race pattern" i.e. 1 UP for 1st, and DOWN for the rest.


Sometimes Ending Up Between Gears With Gear Indicator Line Blinking - PowerDubs_imp - 05-15-2018

I’ve never noticed my bike to ever miss an upshift. All down!


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RE: Sometimes Ending Up Between Gears With Gear Indicator Line Blinking - jtopiso_imp - 05-15-2018

(05-15-2018, 11:33 AM)PowerDubs_imp Wrote: I’ve never noticed my bike to ever miss an upshift. All down!


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becouse dogs are closer to engage on the next up-shift, and closer to "dog-to-dog" on the downshift (they need to engage on different flanks).

Once engagement starts, the tapper on the dog's flank will make full engagement as soon as there is any power driving the gears.

(It's easier when seen than explained here...) Rolleyes


RE: Sometimes Ending Up Between Gears With Gear Indicator Line Blinking - PowerDubs_imp - 05-16-2018

(05-15-2018, 10:19 PM)jtopiso_imp Wrote:
(05-15-2018, 11:33 AM)PowerDubs_imp Wrote: I’ve never noticed my bike to ever miss an upshift. All down!


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becouse dogs are closer to engage on the next up-shift, and closer to "dog-to-dog" on the downshift (they need to engage on different flanks).

Once engagement starts, the tapper on the dog's flank will make full engagement as soon as there is any power driving the gears.

(It's easier when seen than explained here...) Rolleyes


You are the 2nd person to tell me that today-

I just received an email from the breeder that the parents are in heat and hopefully we should expect our new puppy around the end of July. Smile


RE: Sometimes Ending Up Between Gears With Gear Indicator Line Blinking - Houtman_imp - 05-16-2018

(05-16-2018, 12:35 AM)PowerDubs_imp Wrote:
(05-15-2018, 10:19 PM)jtopiso_imp Wrote:
(05-15-2018, 11:33 AM)PowerDubs_imp Wrote: I’ve never noticed my bike to ever miss an upshift. All down!


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becouse dogs are closer to engage on the next up-shift, and closer to "dog-to-dog" on the downshift (they need to engage on different flanks).

Once engagement starts, the tapper on the dog's flank will make full engagement as soon as there is any power driving the gears.

(It's easier when seen than explained here...) Rolleyes


You are the 2nd person to tell me that today-

I just received an email from the breeder that the parents are in heat and hopefully we should expect our new puppy around the end of July. Smile


You are the 2nd person to tell me that today-

I just received an email from the breeder that the parents are in heat and hopefully we should expect our new puppy around the end of July. Smile I like that "story"


RE: Sometimes Ending Up Between Gears With Gear Indicator Line Blinking - SportsterDoc - 05-16-2018

Although this thread has gone to the dogs, I'll add my 2 cents:

Of the ~3 times I missed a shift, in >7,700 miles. I knew when I did it that it was a lazy shift and would not fault the Honda transmission.


RE: Sometimes Ending Up Between Gears With Gear Indicator Line Blinking - the Ferret - 05-16-2018

(05-16-2018, 03:32 AM)SportsterDoc_imp Wrote: Although this thread has gone to the dogs, I'll add my 2 cents:

Of the ~3 times I missed a shift, in >7,700 miles. I knew when I did it that it was a lazy shift and would not fault the Honda transmission.

+1 Thumbs Up (37,000 miles for me)


RE: Sometimes Ending Up Between Gears With Gear Indicator Line Blinking - alprider - 05-16-2018

(05-15-2018, 04:53 AM)3rdbike_imp Wrote: Here's a method that works on just about any motorcycle for a clean positive shift: pre-load the shift lever. As you are going up thru the gears from a stop, place your toe under the shift lever and keep a little bit of pressure on the lever. When you reach your shift point, de-clutch and complete the shift motion. This eliminates that slight delay of moving your toe under the shift lever, then moving it up to contact the shift lever, then completing the shift.

I don't find the need for pre-loading quite so much on down-shifting. Sometimes I think about converting my bikes to a "race pattern" i.e. 1 UP for 1st, and DOWN for the rest.

i hold this not for a good ideaa bcos in this moment you give already side pressure to this thin shift fork

https://www.google.com/search?q=switching+fork+gearbox&client=firefox-b&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjr88f97IrbAhVKyqQKHastAwkQsAQILQ&biw=1623&bih=1086#imgrc=NqEKV6kTafD9FM:


RE: Sometimes Ending Up Between Gears With Gear Indicator Line Blinking - dbarkdoll_imp - 05-16-2018

(05-16-2018, 03:32 AM)SportsterDoc_imp Wrote: Although this thread has gone to the dogs, I'll add my 2 cents:

Of the ~3 times I missed a shift, in >7,700 miles. I knew when I did it that it was a lazy shift and would not fault the Honda transmission.

+2


RE: Sometimes Ending Up Between Gears With Gear Indicator Line Blinking - baxtercat_imp - 05-16-2018

FWIW my 2013 didn't have a gear indicator, and I had no problem with missed shifts, but I did notice the gearbox got smoother after the 600 mile service, when I put in Honda full synthetic oil. didn't expect anything, but the improvement was noticeable.