(03-13-2019, 02:57 PM)Flynrider_imp Wrote: I'm quite happy with my LI battery. See the thread Cormanus posted above.

In another few weeks my battery will have survived 4 years of regular use here in the desert. I've never had a lead/acid battery go longer than three. The main advantage (for me, and other desert dwellers) is that the LI battery doesn't suffer the short life typical of lead/acid batteries in extreme heat.

I just wish I could get one for my truck and my plane.

(03-13-2019, 06:59 PM)MaFiHa_imp Wrote:

(03-13-2019, 02:57 PM)Flynrider_imp Wrote: I'm quite happy with my LI battery. See the thread Cormanus posted above.

In another few weeks my battery will have survived 4 years of regular use here in the desert. I've never had a lead/acid battery go longer than three. The main advantage (for me, and other desert dwellers) is that the LI battery doesn't suffer the short life typical of lead/acid batteries in extreme heat.

I just wish I could get one for my truck and my plane.

OT Would love to see a pic of your plane

On Topic; I have LiIon batteries in two of my Kawa’s since three or four years.
Best thing of it is that they don’t have the problem of loosing acid while warm temperatures and while charging. Also think about when acid level is low and Bike is on the side stand. Then parts of the Anodes (cathodes?) get dry. Also if one put the bike in winter storage you’ll never have the issue of refilling the cells.
AND no rust around the battery compartment.

When the lead battery of my GPX will get weak I also replace it by a
LiIon

(03-13-2019, 06:59 PM)MaFiHa_imp Wrote:

(03-13-2019, 02:57 PM)Flynrider_imp Wrote: I'm quite happy with my LI battery. See the thread Cormanus posted above.

In another few weeks my battery will have survived 4 years of regular use here in the desert. I've never had a lead/acid battery go longer than three. The main advantage (for me, and other desert dwellers) is that the LI battery doesn't suffer the short life typical of lead/acid batteries in extreme heat.

I just wish I could get one for my truck and my plane.

OT Would love to see a pic of your plane

On Topic; I have LiIon batteries in two of my Kawa’s since three or four years.
Best thing of it is that they don’t have the problem of loosing acid while warm temperatures and while charging. Also think about when acid level is low and Bike is on the side stand. Then parts of the Anodes (cathodes?) get dry. Also if one put the bike in winter storage you’ll never have the issue of refilling the cells.
AND no rust around the battery compartment.

When the lead battery of my GPX will get weak I also replace it by a
LiIon

(03-13-2019, 02:44 PM)Rboe_imp Wrote: Lead acid will not last decades in Phoenix based on my experience. Shorai had a sale last year so I picked one up but it does NOT have an internal circuit for charging. Picked up a L-Ion battery for my go box battery supply (telescope, ham radio etc.) and it DOES have the extra circuitry. Got it from Batteries Plus and Bulbs. No more Shorai for me.

(03-13-2019, 09:47 PM)GoldOxide_imp Wrote:

(03-13-2019, 02:44 PM)Rboe_imp Wrote: Lead acid will not last decades in Phoenix based on my experience. Shorai had a sale last year so I picked one up but it does NOT have an internal circuit for charging. Picked up a L-Ion battery for my go box battery supply (telescope, ham radio etc.) and it DOES have the extra circuitry. Got it from Batteries Plus and Bulbs. No more Shorai for me.

Maybe so. Wet lead acid batteries do need top-up of water and/or acid from time-to-time. Maybe the dryness of the desert-like regions are harsher?

(03-13-2019, 06:59 PM)MaFiHa_imp Wrote:

(03-13-2019, 02:57 PM)Flynrider_imp Wrote: I'm quite happy with my LI battery. See the thread Cormanus posted above.

In another few weeks my battery will have survived 4 years of regular use here in the desert. I've never had a lead/acid battery go longer than three. The main advantage (for me, and other desert dwellers) is that the LI battery doesn't suffer the short life typical of lead/acid batteries in extreme heat.

I just wish I could get one for my truck and my plane.

OT Would love to see a pic of your plane

On Topic; I have LiIon batteries in two of my Kawa’s since three or four years.
Best thing of it is that they don’t have the problem of loosing acid while warm temperatures and while charging. Also think about when acid level is low and Bike is on the side stand. Then parts of the Anodes (cathodes?) get dry. Also if one put the bike in winter storage you’ll never have the issue of refilling the cells.
AND no rust around the battery compartment.

When the lead battery of my GPX will get weak I also replace it by a
LiIon

(03-14-2019, 10:38 AM)Lord Popgun_imp Wrote: Nice plane! I put a lot of gas in those things when I was a line boy right out of high school. Worked at the Hilton Head airport. Wasn’t much back then but got a lot of traffic and high end planes. Fun times!

My dad flew Aero Commanders for a living. Are you multi engine rated?

(03-14-2019, 10:13 AM)Flynrider_imp Wrote:

(03-13-2019, 09:47 PM)GoldOxide_imp Wrote:

(03-13-2019, 02:44 PM)Rboe_imp Wrote: Lead acid will not last decades in Phoenix based on my experience. Shorai had a sale last year so I picked one up but it does NOT have an internal circuit for charging. Picked up a L-Ion battery for my go box battery supply (telescope, ham radio etc.) and it DOES have the extra circuitry. Got it from Batteries Plus and Bulbs. No more Shorai for me.

Maybe so. Wet lead acid batteries do need top-up of water and/or acid from time-to-time. Maybe the dryness of the desert-like regions are harsher?

It's not a lack of electrolyte solution, it's mostly the battery chemistry. Lead/acid batteries will accept more charging current as the temperature increases. Charging and discharging at higher ambient temperatures tends to increase the amount of lead sulfate that is deposited on the outer surface of the plates. This premature buildup of corrosion on the plates is what ultimately kills the battery before its time.

(03-13-2019, 06:59 PM)MaFiHa_imp Wrote:

(03-13-2019, 02:57 PM)Flynrider_imp Wrote: I'm quite happy with my LI battery. See the thread Cormanus posted above.

In another few weeks my battery will have survived 4 years of regular use here in the desert. I've never had a lead/acid battery go longer than three. The main advantage (for me, and other desert dwellers) is that the LI battery doesn't suffer the short life typical of lead/acid batteries in extreme heat.

I just wish I could get one for my truck and my plane.

OT Would love to see a pic of your plane

On Topic; I have LiIon batteries in two of my Kawa’s since three or four years.
Best thing of it is that they don’t have the problem of loosing acid while warm temperatures and while charging. Also think about when acid level is low and Bike is on the side stand. Then parts of the Anodes (cathodes?) get dry. Also if one put the bike in winter storage you’ll never have the issue of refilling the cells.
AND no rust around the battery compartment.

When the lead battery of my GPX will get weak I also replace it by a
LiIon

Here you go! When I travel on the CB, I tend to stick to the pavement. This is my off road transportation.

(03-13-2019, 06:59 PM)MaFiHa_imp Wrote:

(03-13-2019, 02:57 PM)Flynrider_imp Wrote: I'm quite happy with my LI battery. See the thread Cormanus posted above.

In another few weeks my battery will have survived 4 years of regular use here in the desert. I've never had a lead/acid battery go longer than three. The main advantage (for me, and other desert dwellers) is that the LI battery doesn't suffer the short life typical of lead/acid batteries in extreme heat.

I just wish I could get one for my truck and my plane.

OT Would love to see a pic of your plane

On Topic; I have LiIon batteries in two of my Kawa’s since three or four years.
Best thing of it is that they don’t have the problem of loosing acid while warm temperatures and while charging. Also think about when acid level is low and Bike is on the side stand. Then parts of the Anodes (cathodes?) get dry. Also if one put the bike in winter storage you’ll never have the issue of refilling the cells.
AND no rust around the battery compartment.

When the lead battery of my GPX will get weak I also replace it by a
LiIon

(03-14-2019, 11:09 AM)Flynrider_imp Wrote:

(03-14-2019, 10:38 AM)Lord Popgun_imp Wrote: Nice plane! I put a lot of gas in those things when I was a line boy right out of high school. Worked at the Hilton Head airport. Wasn’t much back then but got a lot of traffic and high end planes. Fun times!

My dad flew Aero Commanders for a living. Are you multi engine rated?

I'll bet you really liked the low wings. No ladder required to fuel

I'm not multi rated. Much like my motorcycles, I like my planes to be simple and relatively inexpensive to operate. I just fly for personal transportation. I've had offers, but I always thought that doing it for a living would take some of the fun out of it.

(03-14-2019, 10:13 AM)Flynrider_imp Wrote:

(03-13-2019, 09:47 PM)GoldOxide_imp Wrote:

(03-13-2019, 02:44 PM)Rboe_imp Wrote: Lead acid will not last decades in Phoenix based on my experience. Shorai had a sale last year so I picked one up but it does NOT have an internal circuit for charging. Picked up a L-Ion battery for my go box battery supply (telescope, ham radio etc.) and it DOES have the extra circuitry. Got it from Batteries Plus and Bulbs. No more Shorai for me.

Maybe so. Wet lead acid batteries do need top-up of water and/or acid from time-to-time. Maybe the dryness of the desert-like regions are harsher?

It's not a lack of electrolyte solution, it's mostly the battery chemistry. Lead/acid batteries will accept more charging current as the temperature increases. Charging and discharging at higher ambient temperatures tends to increase the amount of lead sulfate that is deposited on the outer surface of the plates. This premature buildup of corrosion on the plates is what ultimately kills the battery before its time.

(03-13-2019, 06:59 PM)MaFiHa_imp Wrote:

(03-13-2019, 02:57 PM)Flynrider_imp Wrote: I'm quite happy with my LI battery. See the thread Cormanus posted above.

In another few weeks my battery will have survived 4 years of regular use here in the desert. I've never had a lead/acid battery go longer than three. The main advantage (for me, and other desert dwellers) is that the LI battery doesn't suffer the short life typical of lead/acid batteries in extreme heat.

I just wish I could get one for my truck and my plane.

OT Would love to see a pic of your plane

On Topic; I have LiIon batteries in two of my Kawa’s since three or four years.
Best thing of it is that they don’t have the problem of loosing acid while warm temperatures and while charging. Also think about when acid level is low and Bike is on the side stand. Then parts of the Anodes (cathodes?) get dry. Also if one put the bike in winter storage you’ll never have the issue of refilling the cells.
AND no rust around the battery compartment.

When the lead battery of my GPX will get weak I also replace it by a
LiIon

Here you go! When I travel on the CB, I tend to stick to the pavement. This is my off road transportation.

(03-14-2019, 10:13 AM)Flynrider_imp Wrote:

(03-13-2019, 09:47 PM)GoldOxide_imp Wrote:

(03-13-2019, 02:44 PM)Rboe_imp Wrote: Lead acid will not last decades in Phoenix based on my experience. Shorai had a sale last year so I picked one up but it does NOT have an internal circuit for charging. Picked up a L-Ion battery for my go box battery supply (telescope, ham radio etc.) and it DOES have the extra circuitry. Got it from Batteries Plus and Bulbs. No more Shorai for me.

Maybe so. Wet lead acid batteries do need top-up of water and/or acid from time-to-time. Maybe the dryness of the desert-like regions are harsher?

It's not a lack of electrolyte solution, it's mostly the battery chemistry. Lead/acid batteries will accept more charging current as the temperature increases. Charging and discharging at higher ambient temperatures tends to increase the amount of lead sulfate that is deposited on the outer surface of the plates. This premature buildup of corrosion on the plates is what ultimately kills the battery before its time.

(03-13-2019, 06:59 PM)MaFiHa_imp Wrote:

(03-13-2019, 02:57 PM)Flynrider_imp Wrote: I'm quite happy with my LI battery. See the thread Cormanus posted above.

In another few weeks my battery will have survived 4 years of regular use here in the desert. I've never had a lead/acid battery go longer than three. The main advantage (for me, and other desert dwellers) is that the LI battery doesn't suffer the short life typical of lead/acid batteries in extreme heat.

I just wish I could get one for my truck and my plane.

OT Would love to see a pic of your plane

On Topic; I have LiIon batteries in two of my Kawa’s since three or four years.
Best thing of it is that they don’t have the problem of loosing acid while warm temperatures and while charging. Also think about when acid level is low and Bike is on the side stand. Then parts of the Anodes (cathodes?) get dry. Also if one put the bike in winter storage you’ll never have the issue of refilling the cells.
AND no rust around the battery compartment.

When the lead battery of my GPX will get weak I also replace it by a
LiIon

Here you go! When I travel on the CB, I tend to stick to the pavement. This is my off road transportation.

(03-14-2019, 10:13 AM)Flynrider_imp Wrote:

(03-13-2019, 09:47 PM)GoldOxide_imp Wrote:

(03-13-2019, 02:44 PM)Rboe_imp Wrote: Lead acid will not last decades in Phoenix based on my experience. Shorai had a sale last year so I picked one up but it does NOT have an internal circuit for charging. Picked up a L-Ion battery for my go box battery supply (telescope, ham radio etc.) and it DOES have the extra circuitry. Got it from Batteries Plus and Bulbs. No more Shorai for me.

Maybe so. Wet lead acid batteries do need top-up of water and/or acid from time-to-time. Maybe the dryness of the desert-like regions are harsher?

It's not a lack of electrolyte solution, it's mostly the battery chemistry. Lead/acid batteries will accept more charging current as the temperature increases. Charging and discharging at higher ambient temperatures tends to increase the amount of lead sulfate that is deposited on the outer surface of the plates. This premature buildup of corrosion on the plates is what ultimately kills the battery before its time.

(03-13-2019, 06:59 PM)MaFiHa_imp Wrote:

(03-13-2019, 02:57 PM)Flynrider_imp Wrote: I'm quite happy with my LI battery. See the thread Cormanus posted above.

In another few weeks my battery will have survived 4 years of regular use here in the desert. I've never had a lead/acid battery go longer than three. The main advantage (for me, and other desert dwellers) is that the LI battery doesn't suffer the short life typical of lead/acid batteries in extreme heat.

I just wish I could get one for my truck and my plane.

OT Would love to see a pic of your plane

On Topic; I have LiIon batteries in two of my Kawa’s since three or four years.
Best thing of it is that they don’t have the problem of loosing acid while warm temperatures and while charging. Also think about when acid level is low and Bike is on the side stand. Then parts of the Anodes (cathodes?) get dry. Also if one put the bike in winter storage you’ll never have the issue of refilling the cells.
AND no rust around the battery compartment.

When the lead battery of my GPX will get weak I also replace it by a
LiIon

Here you go! When I travel on the CB, I tend to stick to the pavement. This is my off road transportation.

(03-13-2019, 06:59 PM)MaFiHa_imp Wrote:

(03-13-2019, 02:57 PM)Flynrider_imp Wrote: I'm quite happy with my LI battery. See the thread Cormanus posted above.

In another few weeks my battery will have survived 4 years of regular use here in the desert. I've never had a lead/acid battery go longer than three. The main advantage (for me, and other desert dwellers) is that the LI battery doesn't suffer the short life typical of lead/acid batteries in extreme heat.

I just wish I could get one for my truck and my plane.

OT Would love to see a pic of your plane

On Topic; I have LiIon batteries in two of my Kawa’s since three or four years.
Best thing of it is that they don’t have the problem of loosing acid while warm temperatures and while charging. Also think about when acid level is low and Bike is on the side stand. Then parts of the Anodes (cathodes?) get dry. Also if one put the bike in winter storage you’ll never have the issue of refilling the cells.
AND no rust around the battery compartment.

When the lead battery of my GPX will get weak I also replace it by a
LiIon