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RE: basics chain adjustment - VIDEO - Lord Popgun - 08-26-2015

Well, yeah. Its at the end of the swingarm. Edit. I mean no. I mean to the end of the swingarm. The adjuster is going to move as you adjust it.

I'm getting confused. In the question to Ferret, I mean to the end of the actual swingarm. When measuring during an adjustment, I measure from the end of the adjuster to the end of the swingarm. Some of us use a micrometer as it is easy to set and get the exact same amount on both sides, but you could use a ruler.

I need to take a look when I get home to be more specific. Or maybe someone can post a pic.

In the service manual it just says to use the decals. You could do that, but you do not know if they are correct unless you check them by measuring.

RE: basics chain adjustment - VIDEO - Riko_imp - 08-26-2015

aaight, now I have some idea what to look out for in the future Wink

I'm doing all this research and most things are based on reviews, owner reports, board information and pictures.

This bike will be mine somewhere next year I hope, in the worst case somewhere begin 2017.

RE: basics chain adjustment - VIDEO - Lord Popgun - 08-26-2015

Riko,

I edited my post while you were posting. Please re-read it.

I guess someone needs to do a HOW-TO with pics sometime.

RE: basics chain adjustment - VIDEO - Riko_imp - 08-26-2015

lol you made it more confusing Smile
Looking at real life pics, each adjuster IS at the very end of the swingarm, with the adjuster bolt at the very end.

RE: basics chain adjustment - VIDEO - the Ferret - 08-26-2015

Ok here are some pics of two common methods

#1 Using the marks on the swingarm method

Left side of wheel ...flat part of swingarm is 3 1/2 marks on the adjuster in as viewed from directly over head

[url=http://smg.photobucket.com/user/theferret111/media/CB1100%20chain%20adjust%20005_zpsbpve8czm.jpg.html][Image: b2421547337e5c6f1281d072309021b7.jpg]

right side of wheel.. flat part of swingarm is also 3 1/2 marks on the adjuster in as viewed from directly over head

[url=http://smg.photobucket.com/user/theferret111/media/CB1100%20chain%20adjust%20006_zpsbm4uyplq.jpg.html][Image: cd3fdc27954ca76907f743e18a7ffb98.jpg]

This method requires a bit of eyeballing but when adjusted to equal on both sides, that IMO is GOOD ENOUGH.

But lets check using another method:

Dial Caliper method

wire from dial caliper is extended and placed against flat part of swingarm, caliper slid down until it meets the back side of the adjuster on the left side of wheel..

[url=http://smg.photobucket.com/user/theferret111/media/CB1100%20chain%20adjust%20001_zps78o8ywtb.jpg.html][Image: 888bcaa27ed870bb4c4b438e46b05ef6.jpg]

measurement read

[url=http://smg.photobucket.com/user/theferret111/media/CB1100%20chain%20adjust%20003_zpsezzhidum.jpg.html][Image: a7459a960df57dd096751711aaffb34b.jpg]

Dial caliper is then moved to the right side of wheel and measured the same way

[url=http://smg.photobucket.com/user/theferret111/media/CB1100%20chain%20adjust%20002_zpsrrneuwxt.jpg.html][Image: ce699ab69bd3693c6cfec3fbea24476c.jpg]

measurement read

[url=http://smg.photobucket.com/user/theferret111/media/CB1100%20chain%20adjust%20004_zpsjepz8ljb.jpg.html][Image: 6c010a35a29fe53fe6a6f1744fd6c5cd.jpg]

both measurements should be very close to equal,( in this case they both measured exactly the same) but within a few thousandths of an inch would be acceptable to me.

If measurements are equal (or close) using either method, the wheel should be straight in the swingarm

OR IMO....GOOD ENOUGH!

RE: basics chain adjustment - VIDEO - Django - 08-26-2015

(08-26-2015, 01:31 AM)Riko_imp Wrote: thx all!

Django, whats that last tool? Looks promising

(08-25-2015, 11:06 AM)Lord Popgun_imp Wrote: That would be a pain every time. Couldn't you just measure from the middle of the pivot to the end of the swingarm, verify it is the same on both sides and then use the micrometer like some of us do now? One time a pain then easy from then on.

by "end of the swingwarm" you mean that adjuster (item 4 image in link above) right?

You attach the tool to the driven sprocket and then you can eyeball the angle ot the sprocket (rear wheel) to the chain.

[Image: c2499cf17706b6d26f8ebe5547f190f2.jpg]
http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B009YEYLWQ?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00

Somebody else posted a hint to this kind of tool already here in the forum, too. I just can't find it.

RE: basics chain adjustment - VIDEO - Riko_imp - 08-26-2015

(08-26-2015, 05:32 AM)The ferret_imp Wrote: Ok here are some pics of two common methods

#1 Using the marks on the swingarm method

Left side of wheel ...flat part of swingarm is 3 1/2 marks on the adjuster in as viewed from directly over head

[Image: b2421547337e5c6f1281d072309021b7.jpg]

right side of wheel.. flat part of swingarm is also 3 1/2 marks on the adjuster in as viewed from directly over head

[url=http://smg.photobucket.com/user/theferret111/media/CB1100%20chain%20adjust%20006_zpsbm4uyplq.jpg.html][Image: cd3fdc27954ca76907f743e18a7ffb98.jpg]

This method requires a bit of eyeballing but when adjusted to equal on both sides, that IMO is GOOD ENOUGH.

But lets check using another method:

Dial Caliper method

wire from dial caliper is extended and placed against flat part of swingarm, caliper slid down until it meets the back side of the adjuster on the left side of wheel..

[url=http://smg.photobucket.com/user/theferret111/media/CB1100%20chain%20adjust%20001_zps78o8ywtb.jpg.html][Image: 888bcaa27ed870bb4c4b438e46b05ef6.jpg]

measurement read

[url=http://smg.photobucket.com/user/theferret111/media/CB1100%20chain%20adjust%20003_zpsezzhidum.jpg.html][Image: a7459a960df57dd096751711aaffb34b.jpg]

Dial caliper is then moved to the right side of wheel and measured the same way

[url=http://smg.photobucket.com/user/theferret111/media/CB1100%20chain%20adjust%20002_zpsrrneuwxt.jpg.html][Image: ce699ab69bd3693c6cfec3fbea24476c.jpg]

measurement read

[url=http://smg.photobucket.com/user/theferret111/media/CB1100%20chain%20adjust%20004_zpsjepz8ljb.jpg.html][Image: 6c010a35a29fe53fe6a6f1744fd6c5cd.jpg]

both measurements should be very close to equal,( in this case they both measured exactly the same) but within a few thousandths of an inch would be acceptable to me.

If measurements are equal (or close) using either method, the wheel should be straight in the swingarm

OR IMO....GOOD ENOUGH!

now this deserves a sticky!

thx a lot, I'm sure many owners here appreciate this as well. Thumbs Up
(08-26-2015, 06:52 AM)Django_imp Wrote:
(08-26-2015, 01:31 AM)Riko_imp Wrote: thx all!

Django, whats that last tool? Looks promising

(08-25-2015, 11:06 AM)Lord Popgun_imp Wrote: That would be a pain every time. Couldn't you just measure from the middle of the pivot to the end of the swingarm, verify it is the same on both sides and then use the micrometer like some of us do now? One time a pain then easy from then on.

by "end of the swingwarm" you mean that adjuster (item 4 image in link above) right?

You attach the tool to the driven sprocket and then you can eyeball the angle ot the sprocket (rear wheel) to the chain.

[Image: c2499cf17706b6d26f8ebe5547f190f2.jpg]
[url=http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B009YEYLWQ?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00]http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B009YEYLWQ?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00

Somebody else posted a hint to this kind of tool already here in the forum, too. I just can't find it.

You attach the tool to the driven sprocket and then you can eyeball the angle ot the sprocket (rear wheel) to the chain.

[Image: e940e351ffea81984e2a7bf4c6c3695b.jpg]
http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B009YEYLWQ?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00

Somebody else posted a hint to this kind of tool already here in the forum, too. I just can't find it.
thx for the link, this pictures says it all I think
[Image: 2dd9e0a5acd61ea3d95fee19d6ca8daf.jpg]

RE: basics chain adjustment - VIDEO - Lord Popgun - 08-26-2015

Thank you Ferret Worship
Ferret, can you put your post in the HOW-TO?

RE: basics chain adjustment - VIDEO - Randy B - 08-26-2015

Here is one in the US

http://www.amazon.com/Motion-Pro-08-0048-Chain-Alignment/dp/B000GTVOJQ

[Image: 83504e6be8aa5999d7cddca0f33424d7.jpg]

RE: basics chain adjustment - VIDEO - Motogeezer1949_imp - 08-26-2015

O. M. to the freaking G.