(01-26-2019, 05:22 AM)Chuckk_imp Wrote:

(01-26-2019, 05:12 AM)2017EX_imp Wrote: I am certainly no tire expert, and dread the day when it is time for a tire change on my 2017EX because of the limited alternatives to the stock Dunlops. Whereas the 2014 Deluxe, 2017EX, and later spoked wheels use an inner tube, all the other models have cast wheels with tubeless tires. In my reading/research while a tubeless tire can be mounted on a spoked wheel with inner tube, it results in undesirable friction inside the tire which generates equally undesirable heat inside the tire.

As a result I am reluctant to use anything other than a tire that is designed and intended to be used with an inner tube. Yes, there are tubless conversion kits available, but because the tires are the only thing between the bike and the road, I am reluctant to go that route as well.

Safety and regular maintenance is number one with me, so barring availability of a proper safe alternative, I will have to stay with the stock Dunlops. Perhaps there are members with more knowledge about this situation than I have that can shed more light on the situation.

hmmm .. never heard that before about creating heat.. I would like to read the explanation of that.. I wonder if that pertains to bias tires as well as radials .. how detrimental is the heat ? ..

(01-26-2019, 05:12 AM)2017EX_imp Wrote: I am certainly no tire expert, and dread the day when it is time for a tire change on my 2017EX because of the limited alternatives to the stock Dunlops. Whereas the 2014 Deluxe, 2017EX, and later spoked wheels use an inner tube, all the other models have cast wheels with tubeless tires. In my reading/research while a tubeless tire can be mounted on a spoked wheel with inner tube, it results in undesirable friction inside the tire which generates equally undesirable heat inside the tire.

As a result I am reluctant to use anything other than a tire that is designed and intended to be used with an inner tube. Yes, there are tubless conversion kits available, but because the tires are the only thing between the bike and the road, I am reluctant to go that route as well.

Safety and regular maintenance is number one with me, so barring availability of a proper safe alternative, I will have to stay with the stock Dunlops. Perhaps there are members with more knowledge about this situation than I have that can shed more light on the situation.

(01-26-2019, 06:18 AM)pekingduck_imp Wrote: Here's another nasty wrinkle. Your friendly neighborhood service department is obligated to be knowledgeable, and install safe equipment on your bike. By installing non-recommended speed-rated tires, they put themselves at legal risk. When I was a service manager many years ago, the customer had to sign a disclaimer if he supplied a used or non-spec tire.

(01-26-2019, 07:01 AM)2017EX_imp Wrote:

(01-26-2019, 05:22 AM)Chuckk_imp Wrote:

(01-26-2019, 05:12 AM)2017EX_imp Wrote: I am certainly no tire expert, and dread the day when it is time for a tire change on my 2017EX because of the limited alternatives to the stock Dunlops. Whereas the 2014 Deluxe, 2017EX, and later spoked wheels use an inner tube, all the other models have cast wheels with tubeless tires. In my reading/research while a tubeless tire can be mounted on a spoked wheel with inner tube, it results in undesirable friction inside the tire which generates equally undesirable heat inside the tire.

As a result I am reluctant to use anything other than a tire that is designed and intended to be used with an inner tube. Yes, there are tubless conversion kits available, but because the tires are the only thing between the bike and the road, I am reluctant to go that route as well.

Safety and regular maintenance is number one with me, so barring availability of a proper safe alternative, I will have to stay with the stock Dunlops. Perhaps there are members with more knowledge about this situation than I have that can shed more light on the situation.

hmmm .. never heard that before about creating heat.. I would like to read the explanation of that.. I wonder if that pertains to bias tires as well as radials .. how detrimental is the heat ? ..

hmmm .. never heard that before about creating heat.. I would like to read the explanation of that.. I wonder if that pertains to bias tires as well as radials .. how detrimental is the heat ? ..
Here is a brief article explaining heat, but also a reduction of speed rating from using tubeless tires with tubes in a tube rim: https://www.motorcyclenews.com/new-rider/choosing-kit/2010/october/oct2710-tubes-with-tubeless-tyres-/ Here is a VERY Lengthy article that discusses just about everything you can think of related to tubless vs tube rims, tubeless tires vs tubed tires, and running tubless tires with tubes on a tube rim: http://www.bmwmotorcycletech.info/section6.htm All things considered, I think my preference will be to stay with the stock Dunlop tires unless someone comes up with tube tires that are the right size from some other manufacturer.

(01-26-2019, 11:41 AM)Houtman_imp Wrote: There soon will be available a Continental Trail Attack 3 in our 140/70 size for TUBED tires , not the cheapest but a very good tire .
You might check this one out as well.

(01-25-2019, 12:02 PM)pekingduck_imp Wrote: The OEM tires are V-rated, and the Shinko 777s are H-rated. I've used Shinkos on smaller bikes and they seem okay, but on a big heavy, higher-powered bikes, I'd stay with a V-rated tire.

I replaced the tires on my 2013 in November with a V-Rated 150/70-18 Bridgestone BT45 rear. It was just $108.88 from http://www.rockymountainatvmc.com. The front I used was a V-Rated 110/90-18 Bridgestone BT45 for $101.88. No tax and free shipping too. The Shinkos are just a little less.

The stock size is a lower profile, narrower size - 110/80-18. I would not recommend a larger 120/90-18 since it will make the bike steer much more sluggishly. It is effectively 2 sizes bigger.