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RE: Oil change - filter differences. - Cormanus - 09-04-2021

I seem to recall there was a recall of a batch or batch of K&N filters suggesting a manufacturing defect.


RE: Oil change - filter differences. - GoldOxide_imp - 09-05-2021

(09-04-2021, 02:58 PM)pekingduck_imp Wrote: I have the feeling the failures on the K&N and Hi-Flo filters with the 17mm nut spot-welded to the case are due to overtightening, especially with air or electric impact guns.

Here's a pic inside a Hi-Flo filter. Filter cartridge is actually smaller than the ones from the original CB750. Not much real change in 50+ years, but the spin-on filters cost more than twice as much, and there's such a waste of materials.

Yeah, I hear ya PKD. The days of engineered waste might be reversing finally. Future e-motorcyclers will be asking, " ... what is oil filter? What was dumped into landfill? What is landfill waste? ... "


RE: Oil change - filter differences. - mattmcuomo@yahoo.com - 09-05-2021

(09-04-2021, 10:50 AM)Houtman_imp Wrote: Very simple Confusedtick to OEM Honda filters and do not worry !!!
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I have 89,000 miles on my bike. Always used Honda filters and Honda 10/40 dino oil. Never had a problem....

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RE: Oil change - filter differences. - furious_blue_imp - 09-05-2021

(09-05-2021, 12:14 AM)GoldOxide_imp Wrote:
(09-04-2021, 02:58 PM)pekingduck_imp Wrote: I have the feeling the failures on the K&N and Hi-Flo filters with the 17mm nut spot-welded to the case are due to overtightening, especially with air or electric impact guns.

Here's a pic inside a Hi-Flo filter. Filter cartridge is actually smaller than the ones from the original CB750. Not much real change in 50+ years, but the spin-on filters cost more than twice as much, and there's such a waste of materials.

Yeah, I hear ya PKD. The days of engineered waste might be reversing finally. Future e-motorcyclers will be asking, " ... what is oil filter? What was dumped into landfill? What is landfill waste? ... "

Not so far fetched !
My nephew had a roommate that borrowed a car. She had to call her mother from a gas station because the car's fuel warning came on and she did not know how to put gas in the car and needed to be talked through it. She only knew about charging plug in electric cars.


RE: Oil change - filter differences. - GoldOxide_imp - 09-05-2021

(09-05-2021, 03:26 AM)furious_blue_imp Wrote:
(09-05-2021, 12:14 AM)GoldOxide_imp Wrote:
(09-04-2021, 02:58 PM)pekingduck_imp Wrote: I have the feeling the failures on the K&N and Hi-Flo filters with the 17mm nut spot-welded to the case are due to overtightening, especially with air or electric impact guns.

Here's a pic inside a Hi-Flo filter. Filter cartridge is actually smaller than the ones from the original CB750. Not much real change in 50+ years, but the spin-on filters cost more than twice as much, and there's such a waste of materials.

Yeah, I hear ya PKD. The days of engineered waste might be reversing finally. Future e-motorcyclers will be asking, " ... what is oil filter? What was dumped into landfill? What is landfill waste? ... "

Not so far fetched !
My nephew had a roommate that borrowed a car. She had to call her mother from a gas station because the car's fuel warning came on and she did not know how to put gas in the car and needed to be talked through it. She only knew about charging plug in electric cars.

Not so far fetched !
My nephew had a roommate that borrowed a car. She had to call her mother from a gas station because the car's fuel warning came on and she did not know how to put gas in the car and needed to be talked through it. She only knew about charging plug in electric cars.
Crikey.

Some people say young generation folks are quite smart. Hmm. Maybe as smart as quickly navigating an app, or drafting up something pretty on the iMac. But I find many of these same folks don't comprehend the complexity of the underlying technology, or that it even exists. "It's magic".

Arguably they don't have too. Hmmm. Dunno, where am I going with this? Maybe some survival skills?


RE: Oil change - filter differences. - furious_blue_imp - 09-05-2021

(09-05-2021, 07:24 AM)GoldOxide_imp Wrote:
(09-05-2021, 03:26 AM)furious_blue_imp Wrote:
(09-05-2021, 12:14 AM)GoldOxide_imp Wrote:
(09-04-2021, 02:58 PM)pekingduck_imp Wrote: I have the feeling the failures on the K&N and Hi-Flo filters with the 17mm nut spot-welded to the case are due to overtightening, especially with air or electric impact guns.

Here's a pic inside a Hi-Flo filter. Filter cartridge is actually smaller than the ones from the original CB750. Not much real change in 50+ years, but the spin-on filters cost more than twice as much, and there's such a waste of materials.

Yeah, I hear ya PKD. The days of engineered waste might be reversing finally. Future e-motorcyclers will be asking, " ... what is oil filter? What was dumped into landfill? What is landfill waste? ... "

Not so far fetched !
My nephew had a roommate that borrowed a car. She had to call her mother from a gas station because the car's fuel warning came on and she did not know how to put gas in the car and needed to be talked through it. She only knew about charging plug in electric cars.

Not so far fetched !
My nephew had a roommate that borrowed a car. She had to call her mother from a gas station because the car's fuel warning came on and she did not know how to put gas in the car and needed to be talked through it. She only knew about charging plug in electric cars.
Crikey.

Some people say young generation folks are quite smart. Hmm. Maybe as smart as quickly navigating an app, or drafting up something pretty on the iMac. But I find many of these same folks don't comprehend the complexity of the underlying technology, or that it even exists. "It's magic".

Arguably they don't have too. Hmmm. Dunno, where am I going with this? Maybe some survival skills?
I totally hear you !
A little while back I had a discussion with a young guy who was disparaging how 'old people' don't understand new things. I said to him that just because you've learned how to use a smart phone, that doesn't necessarily make you so 'advanced', the phone was designed to seem like a simple device. He jokingly retorted: 'what ? you don't know how to use a smart phone ?'
I said to him, tell you what, I'll give you all the hardware for a phone and all you have to do is write the frequency-hopping algorithms that both the sender and receiver are required to run in order to make cell phone transmission work.
uh huh....


RE: Oil change - filter differences. - LongRanger_imp - 09-05-2021

I agree it’s a generational thing but I was married, 30 years ago, to a very bright gal with a prestigious degree in mechanical engineering who was employed by a large US defense contractor and who developed automated guidance systems for F16 ordinance.

One day we got a flat tire in the car. I got the jack out of the trunk and proceeded to lift the car so I could remove the wheel and mount the spare. She got out of the car, inspected my work, and began to analyze exactly where to place the jack to ensure it would actually lift the car (uh, honey, there are marks under the car). It was infuriating! So, very smart lady but sometimes I questioned her common sense and tendency for paralysis by analysis.


RE: Oil change - filter differences. - furious_blue_imp - 09-05-2021

(09-05-2021, 08:12 AM)LongRanger_imp Wrote: I agree it’s a generational thing but I was married, 30 years ago, to a very bright gal with a prestigious degree in mechanical engineering who was employed by a large US defense contractor and who developed automated guidance systems for F16 ordinance.

One day we got a flat tire in the car. I got the jack out of the trunk and proceeded to lift the car so I could remove the wheel and mount the spare. She got out of the car, inspected my work, and began to analyze exactly where to place the jack to ensure it would actually lift the car (uh, honey, there are marks under the car). It was infuriating! So, very smart lady but sometimes I questioned her common sense and tendency for paralysis by analysis.

Good thing you got started on it first !
Imagine the pain if the theoretically 'perfect balance point' happened to not be able to take the load for a lack of structural support.. major OOOPS ! hah !


RE: Oil change - filter differences. - Houtman_imp - 09-05-2021

Common sense is far more useful than being smart .


RE: Oil change - filter differences. - GoldOxide_imp - 09-05-2021

... so are we doomed?

The future (if any) of the new CB1100 is in who's hands? Confused