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RE: Oil Filter Options - the Ferret - 04-12-2021
$13 each free shipping on a pack of 12
[url=https://www.ebay.com/itm/254699453798?chn=ps&mkevt=1&mkcid=28]https://www.ebay.com/itm/254699453798?ch...1&mkcid=28
RE: Oil Filter Options - cj599_imp - 04-12-2021
(04-12-2021, 11:22 PM)The ferret_imp Wrote: $13 each free shipping on a pack of 12
[url=https://www.ebay.com/itm/254699453798?chn=ps&mkevt=1&mkcid=28]https://www.ebay.com/itm/254699453798?ch...1&mkcid=28
Thats how i buy them
RE: Oil Filter Options - Yata-Garasu_imp - 04-13-2021
(04-12-2021, 04:56 PM)Tev62_imp Wrote: I can't help think you are overthinking this. Just buy a known brand name filter designed for the bike and be done with it. I used a "Champion" filter on my last oil change but only because it was in stock and the easiest to purchase. Whether they make it themselves I don't know but it will be fine.
When you say things like "They have been working well in the Nissan", how do you know that, what metric have you used? Do you mean they clean your oil exceptionally well as compared to another filter you have used or you haven't had a motor failure and you attribute that to the filter? How have you measured your Nissan filter performance?
Calibrated eyeball. Oil in my Nissan still runs clear when I drain it out after 3k miles. Manufacturer suggested interval is 5k.
Clear oil tells me the filter is working as it should.
I think you're right about buying a name brand filter designed to fit the bike. The problem is, which filters fit the bike isn't always transparent.
It's funny, there are a bunch of people on the Nissan forums who swear by the Nissan filters and will impugn the integrity of anyone suggesting a different brand...
Personally I'm not convinced that the Honda filters are the best. Good enough, yes, but I have seen nothing to justify the high prices compared to other *premium* oil filters.
For now both of my Hondas have new Honda filters. Next time I will probably go with the Bosch 3300, but who knows?
If the Mobil 1 or Champion filters are on sale I'd be fine using either one of those.
Question... For those using the Mobil M-108, does the new slightly longer M-108A still fit behind the pipes?
Thanks again for the thoughtful replies!
RE: Oil Filter Options - cj599_imp - 04-13-2021
i recently took the honda filter appart after my first change and the honda filter is very well constructed as good or better than wix, puralater witch are 2 other brands i run i have had bad experiences with fram filters coming apart inside un less you buy their very expensive line of filters i build engines as a hobby and i cut open almost every filter i use to inspect for engine damage
RE: Oil Filter Options - Scotty_imp - 04-13-2021
(04-13-2021, 05:51 AM)cj599_imp Wrote: i recently took the honda filter appart after my first change and the honda filter is very well constructed as good or better than wix, puralater witch are 2 other brands i run i have had bad experiences with fram filters coming apart inside un less you buy their very expensive line of filters i build engines as a hobby and i cut open almost every filter i use to inspect for engine damage
I too cut open my Honda filter this week, it was the -D01, US-made one. I was impressed by it's construction as well, and I'm not usually inclined to buy OE parts just because of the name.
RE: Oil Filter Options - cj599_imp - 04-13-2021
(04-13-2021, 08:59 AM)Scotty_imp Wrote:(04-13-2021, 05:51 AM)cj599_imp Wrote: i recently took the honda filter appart after my first change and the honda filter is very well constructed as good or better than wix, puralater witch are 2 other brands i run i have had bad experiences with fram filters coming apart inside un less you buy their very expensive line of filters i build engines as a hobby and i cut open almost every filter i use to inspect for engine damage
I too cut open my Honda filter this week, it was the -D01, US-made one. I was impressed by it's construction as well, and I'm not usually inclined to buy OE parts just because of the name.
I too cut open my Honda filter this week, it was the -D01, US-made one. I was impressed by it's construction as well, and I'm not usually inclined to buy OE parts just because of the name. what are the odds of that lol
RE: Oil Filter Options - 2017EX_imp - 04-16-2021
I only use OEM Honda oil filters ( part number 15410-MFJ-D01 ) and full synthetic Honda HP4S oil. Everyone is entitled to use whatever they want in their own bikes, but my philosophy is why would I want to stray away from using oil and filters other than what Honda calls for in an expensive engine? Now, provided it is the correct type and viscosity, going with a different brand oil like Mobil 1 is no big deal. But to me the filter is a whole different ball game, case in point being K&N filter failures, among others.
Apparently there is now a new part number for the stock Honda oil filter, 15410-MFJ-D01, which is 15410-MFJ-D02. The D01 original filter is/was made by Roki, whereas the D02 is made by Wako. Other than manufacturer I have not been able to find anything about any other difference between the two. Here is a page from Babbits showing the new part number for the oil filter ( #10 of the parts listed ): https://www.babbittsonline.com/oemparts/a/hon/58e2bbf787a866054c370bb3/oil-pan-oil-pump
There are numerous listings online, including Amazon and eBay for these filters at less than $20 each, just search with the part numbers. That said, check out the attached link showing how to spot counterfeits of these oil filters first.
https://www.1000rr.net/threads/genuine-vs-counterfeit-honda-oil-filters.260341/
Also included in this link, below the real vs counterfeit Honda filter video, is a video comparing actual performance of a real vs counterfeit Toyota oil filter that is interesting. Name brand cross over filters might be OK ( I personally would still not trust K&N ) assuming that they are genuine, but for any small savings in price I am staying with OEM Honda.
RE: Oil Filter Options - Yata-Garasu_imp - 04-16-2021
I would definitely hope that a genuine Honda filter would provide superior performance compared with an imposter counterfeit filter!
Since I have three vehicles that all use the same filter, I am going to continue using the Bosch 3300. I didn't realize that my two current Honda bikes could use this filter as well as my Nissan Note.
It's interesting to me that the Bosch filter is also made in the USA, and on tear-down, internally it looks an awful lot like the US made Honda filter, including the red silicon reverse-flow valve.
https://youtu.be/HIJ1ea3aoH4
At $4 each, it is highly unlikely that anyone will try to manufacture counterfeit Bosch 3300 filters.
In fact, using Honda filters purchased from anywhere besides an authorized Honda dealer, you run an increased risk of obtaining an inferior counterfeit filter with subpar performance compared to genuine premium filters such as the Bosch or Mobil 1.
Apparently Walmart sells a $3 filter made by Champion that gets respectable reviews as well, the Super Tech Oil Filter, ST6607.
Unfortunately the ST6607 is blue, not black, so it's not a good aesthetic fit for the CB1100, but it's good to know that there are options.
I have been using the Bosch 3300 for several years in my car with good results and they are black as well.
RE: Oil Filter Options - Yata-Garasu_imp - 04-16-2021
Here's another video in support of sticking with the OEM Honda filter...
https://youtu.be/gPzFLk8r9s4
RE: Oil Filter Options - Tev62 - 04-17-2021
(04-16-2021, 08:28 PM)Yata-Garasu_imp Wrote: Here's another video in support of sticking with the OEM Honda filter...
https://youtu.be/gPzFLk8r9s4
Not really applicable to where we have our filter but what a great video for the owners of those bikes. You could see that happening a lot.