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Front brake inconsistent resistance - mvk24_imp - 05-14-2023
2 things I can think of.
1. Outright issue at the front master cylinder as mentioned above. (If not seeing any leaks at either front calipers or lines.
OR
2. You had air in the lines and also happened to have a new tech/apprentice at the shop that didn't bleed your brakes properly and you still have air or the addition of air in the system.
I would absolutely start with flushing your brakes yourself to purge any air and know for sure that it is done and done properly. You can even get a vacuum hand pump from harbor freight for a few dollars that makes it an already easier and faster process. You'll be done in about 5 minutes.
https://www.harborfreight.com/brake-bleeder-and-vacuum-pump-kit-63391.html
There are other pumps on amazon also for $20 or less. You also don't need a pump you can just do it the old school way by building pressure with the lever, holding the lever, and opening then closing the bleeder, then releasing the lever and repeating. Just make sure you keep the master cylinder topped off.
https://youtu.be/fUWO0SQX6-U
After you flush the system to make sure for certain there is no air in the system AND that you actually have new brake fluid. If the problem still persists than you can go deeper into rebuilding the calipers or master cylinder after further investigation.
2014 CB1100, 1981 KZ440 LTD, 1993 Yamaha XJ600 Seca, 1994 Yamaha XJ600 Seca
RE: Front brake inconsistent resistance - ChiefJP_imp - 05-14-2023
(05-14-2023, 08:51 AM)max_imp Wrote: ( can't help myself ) If there is loss of fluid ( the reservoir level is dropping ) it's anything but the master cylinder ( at the handle bars ).
And if there are no leaks it IS the master which is letting fluid getting past the first sealing rubber cup ( there are two, one for pressure and the second one which you can see in the reservoir opening to stop fluid leaking out of the cylinder ).
The fact that it restores itself with a few pumps suggests to me that it does point to the master once it resets itself.
Could be the brake is not used frequently or a myriad of other causes, one of which is corrosion in the cylinder,worth a look, easy to replace the parts on the handlebars and should quickly prove the point, not a usually mentioned fault if i recall correctly.
Here's how it works;
All the best with the bike Chief.
Whoa! These diagrams are awesome. Thank you!. Also, just gunna throw out that there doesn't seem to be fluid leaking from anywhere. No fluid drop in the reservoir that I can see.
Thanks again all.
RE: Front brake inconsistent resistance - GoldOxide_imp - 05-14-2023
(05-14-2023, 07:53 AM)peterbaron_imp Wrote: You probably meant the brake master cylinder, not slave.
Aren't "master" and "slave" words politically incorrect and deprecated?
If so, it will be interesting what the industry replacement words will be.
(Got this idea when speaking about a home's master bedroom. Responses were disapproving.)
RE: Front brake inconsistent resistance - 1973cb750 - 05-14-2023
didnt read the whole thread but greasing the pivot point and where it contacts the piston helps big time on clutch and brake i do it twice a year
RE: Front brake inconsistent resistance - Rocky_imp - 05-15-2023
(05-14-2023, 08:51 AM)max_imp Wrote: ( can't help myself ) If there is loss of fluid ( the reservoir level is dropping ) it's anything but the master cylinder ( at the handle bars ).
And if there are no leaks it IS the master which is letting fluid getting past the first sealing rubber cup ( there are two, one for pressure and the second one which you can see in the reservoir opening to stop fluid leaking out of the cylinder ).
The fact that it restores itself with a few pumps suggests to me that it does point to the master once it resets itself.
Could be the brake is not used frequently or a myriad of other causes, one of which is corrosion in the cylinder,worth a look, easy to replace the parts on the handlebars and should quickly prove the point, not a usually mentioned fault if i recall correctly.
Here's how it works;
All the best with the bike Chief.
Excellent illustration
RE: Front brake inconsistent resistance - max - 05-15-2023
(05-15-2023, 12:54 AM)Rocky_imp Wrote:(05-14-2023, 08:51 AM)max_imp Wrote: ( can't help myself ) If there is loss of fluid ( the reservoir level is dropping ) it's anything but the master cylinder ( at the handle bars ).
And if there are no leaks it IS the master which is letting fluid getting past the first sealing rubber cup ( there are two, one for pressure and the second one which you can see in the reservoir opening to stop fluid leaking out of the cylinder ).
The fact that it restores itself with a few pumps suggests to me that it does point to the master once it resets itself.
Could be the brake is not used frequently or a myriad of other causes, one of which is corrosion in the cylinder,worth a look, easy to replace the parts on the handlebars and should quickly prove the point, not a usually mentioned fault if i recall correctly.
Here's how it works;
All the best with the bike Chief.
Excellent illustration
Excellent illustration
Hi Rocky, good to see you
RE: Front brake inconsistent resistance - bvictory_imp - 06-14-2023
Considering that the front brakes are probably the most important safety system on your bike, I would get that addressed asap. There might be residual air in the line. Even with a brake bleed, I once had air in my rear brake line. I bungee corded the foot lever as far as it would go and left it overnight. Then I came out in the morning and bled it again. That fixed it. Try the same process with your front brake lever. Make sure you attach a hose to the nipple on the caliper and slowly open it. Let it bleed slowly and watch the brake fluid level and make sure it stays filled so more air doesn’t get in there. If that doesn’t work, I think you need to have your master cylinder rebuilt.