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TPS Sourcing because of High Idle - Printable Version +- The CB1100 Community Forum (https://cb1100forum.net/forum) +-- Forum: Honda CB1100 Discussions (https://cb1100forum.net/forum/forumdisplay.php?fid=5) +--- Forum: Mechanical & Technical (https://cb1100forum.net/forum/forumdisplay.php?fid=7) +--- Thread: TPS Sourcing because of High Idle (/showthread.php?tid=4215) |
RE: TPS Sourcing because of High Idle - GoldOxide_imp - 05-14-2023 (05-14-2023, 05:44 AM)Nachodaddy_imp Wrote:(05-13-2023, 11:37 AM)Obi-wan Kenobi_imp Wrote: Hello There,You can change out every part on this bike except the ECU and you will still have the same problem. I spent $700 to have a new IACV installed and it didn't make a bit of difference. While the smoke was clearing from burning seven hundred dollar bills, I read Power Dubs' advice to replace my ECU and a post by someone in South Korea who took his to his local shop where they replaced the ECU and the problem went away. So I bought a new one (not a used one on EBAY) and it worked fine and still does, just like Power Dubs said it would. The last few years it seems that late model bike ECU firmware have been undergoing iterations of updates to combat challenges as a result of meeting the Euro 5 emission standard. Honda was also affected by it. It seems now by 2023 the dust has mostly settled as manufacturers tweaked out the ECU bugs. Some Euro 4 bikes needed ECU firmware updates too, but thankfully for many it wasn't as a challenging as Euro 5. I cannot imagine how the next generation of bikes fair as Euro 6 puts a further stranglehold on the fuel emissions. RE: TPS Sourcing because of High Idle - Nachodaddy - 05-14-2023 I sent Obi-wan Kenobi a pm because I should have asked the year and model of his bike. I did not check to see if that is the part number for his year and model ECU and I noticed the other day that someone in Canada posted a completely different pn for Canadian ECUs, so that throws a whole new light on things. All I can say, is that replacing ECU 38770-MGC-A23 with ECU 38770-MGC-A24 on my 2013 standard got rid of the high idle problem. Maybe mapping the ECU will give us clearer answers. RE: TPS Sourcing because of High Idle - Cormanus - 05-14-2023 From his avatar, I’m guessing Obi-wan Kenobi’s bike is a 2014 standard. RE: TPS Sourcing because of High Idle - Karidis - 05-14-2023 1973cb750 has a copy of my 2013 Part #38770-MGC-A23 ECU and Part #38770-MGC-A24 ECU I did not have the high idle problem....so far. RE: TPS Sourcing because of High Idle - Obi-wan Kenobi_imp - 05-14-2023 Thanks all for the helpful replies. My bike is a 2014 Non-ABS, and I am in the U.S. When I try to find the part on Partzilla.com I find the below part number. Does that look like what I am looking for? PGM-FI UNIT 38770-MGC-A42 I will look into getting an new ECU. Have any of you replaced the ECU yourselves? I am pretty good with working on things, but have limited tools at my apartment. I am just wondering how difficult of a task it would be to do myself. RE: TPS Sourcing because of High Idle - Lord Popgun - 05-14-2023 The hardest part of replacing the ECU is removing the tank for access. The fuel line fitting is fiddly. Look here: https://www.partsfish.com/oemparts/a/hon/52f28c10f870021404ec5a50/wire-harness The ECU is item 11 and has a new part number. The old one is the one you list in your post. RE: TPS Sourcing because of High Idle - PowerDubs_imp - 05-14-2023 I honestly wouldn't spend the money on a new ECU these days. For less than you would pay for a night out at dinner- you can buy the cable & adapter needed to read and write the ECU. So- as long as you have a laptop or computer you can plug into the bike... you can update the software yourself with the help of 1973cb750. Especially if he can combine the 'tuned' aspects of what I sent him with the new version of whatever the factory has. RE: TPS Sourcing because of High Idle - SportsterDoc - 05-14-2023 The problem may be IACV and/or ECU/ECU program but not likely the TPS Just glancing at pages 5-15 and 5-16 of the service manual shows how well the CB1100 will continue to perform with many sensor codes. If the EOT is wonky, the only issue is hard starting cold. If the IAT is wonky, default is 95 F. If TPS is wonky, default is 0 degrees position If an O2 sensor is wonky, "engine operates normally" RE: TPS Sourcing because of High Idle - 1973cb750 - 05-14-2023 glad to see your back dubs id like to try and flash a oem ecm with the issues and see what happens RE: TPS Sourcing because of High Idle - max - 05-15-2023 (05-14-2023, 11:54 PM)1973cb750_imp Wrote: glad to see your back dubs id like to try and flash a oem ecm with the issues and see what happensSecond that |