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RE: New owner... Vibrations.. And a question - Tev62 - 05-26-2021

Are any engine bars fitted correctly? SW-Motech bars on Africa Twins used to cause bad vibration when wrongly self-fitted by a lot of owners, it was only a small mistake (bad fitting diagrams) but it made a very big difference.


RE: New owner... Vibrations.. And a question - jtopiso_imp - 05-26-2021

(05-26-2021, 02:26 AM)lazz_imp Wrote: Hi everyone,

recently bought a CB1100EX 6speed that had just been run in.

I really like the bike in all respects and it seems perfect for my needs.

Except, on my bike, the constant vibrations/buzz in the midrange (from 3K to 5K) are intensely intrusive. To the extent that on a recent 3 hour run, my hands and feet were buzzing for several hours afterwards. I was wearing full riding gear.

I have been riding for 20 years, everything form old brits to racing ducatis with many guzzis in between and a fair few inline 4s. My daily round town ride up until now has been a 1970 Triumph twin and that causes me no problems in terms of vibration! (I mean the thumping vibration is there, but it is transient, unlike the constant buzz on my new honda) Heck, I've been using a 1960s guzzi police bike for the past 4 years for my long distance work.... So I don't believe I'm overly sensitive to vibrations.

I use a motorcycle as my primary mode of transport and ride far and often.

There are a few others who have complained about vibration on this forum and many who haven't, what I'm trying to figure out is whether my particular bike has a fault or if this is just a characteristic of the model.

Do you all just keep the revs under 3k?

Does anybody out there have a bike that is smooth between 3K and 5K?

Any info/data points gratefully appreciated

Ride safe,

Thanks


Probably not related, but I bought my bike brand new, and it had a strange vibration (not a buzz: a vibration). The cause was a bad set of tyres: both from and rear were out of round.

Make sure that your problem it's not speed related, but rpm related to rule this out.


RE: New owner... Vibrations.. And a question - lazz_imp - 05-26-2021

Really appreciate all the replies

(05-26-2021, 12:52 PM)pekingduck_imp Wrote: Are the original handlebars, bar end weights, and mirrors still on it?
Any modifications?


Nope totally stock... The bar end weights are properly attached

(I checked after the screw holding the right bar end weight backed itself out on a ride!)
(05-26-2021, 04:50 PM)Tev62_imp Wrote: Are any engine bars fitted correctly? SW-Motech bars on Africa Twins used to cause bad vibration when wrongly self-fitted by a lot of owners, it was only a small mistake (bad fitting diagrams) but it made a very big difference.

No engine bars, all the mounting points seem secure
(05-26-2021, 05:24 PM)jtopiso_imp Wrote:
(05-26-2021, 02:26 AM)lazz_imp Wrote: Hi everyone,

recently bought a CB1100EX 6speed that had just been run in.

I really like the bike in all respects and it seems perfect for my needs.

Except, on my bike, the constant vibrations/buzz in the midrange (from 3K to 5K) are intensely intrusive. To the extent that on a recent 3 hour run, my hands and feet were buzzing for several hours afterwards. I was wearing full riding gear.

I have been riding for 20 years, everything form old brits to racing ducatis with many guzzis in between and a fair few inline 4s. My daily round town ride up until now has been a 1970 Triumph twin and that causes me no problems in terms of vibration! (I mean the thumping vibration is there, but it is transient, unlike the constant buzz on my new honda) Heck, I've been using a 1960s guzzi police bike for the past 4 years for my long distance work.... So I don't believe I'm overly sensitive to vibrations.

I use a motorcycle as my primary mode of transport and ride far and often.

There are a few others who have complained about vibration on this forum and many who haven't, what I'm trying to figure out is whether my particular bike has a fault or if this is just a characteristic of the model.

Do you all just keep the revs under 3k?

Does anybody out there have a bike that is smooth between 3K and 5K?

Any info/data points gratefully appreciated

Ride safe,

Thanks


Probably not related, but I bought my bike brand new, and it had a strange vibration (not a buzz: a vibration). The cause was a bad set of tyres: both from and rear were out of round.

Make sure that your problem it's not speed related, but rpm related to rule this out.


Probably not related, but I bought my bike brand new, and it had a strange vibration (not a buzz: a vibration). The cause was a bad set of tyres: both from and rear were out of round.

Make sure that your problem it's not speed related, but rpm related to rule this out.
yes, it's rpm related
(05-26-2021, 10:46 AM)Lord Popgun_imp Wrote: Mine wasn’t totally smoothed out until 2500-3500 miles. Just kept getting better and better then been the same since.

this info gives me hope!!!
(05-26-2021, 12:30 PM)Whoops_imp Wrote: I have a vibration issue as well and added Grip Puppies. They helped a bit, but not enough. I was actually looking at heavier bar ends as it was suggested in a thread here from years ago but I never saw a follow up post to see if they worked to reduce vibrations at the grips or not. These are what were suggested…

[url=https://www.hvmp.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=Honda%2DBar%2DEnds&CartID=1]https://www.hvmp.com/ProductDetails.asp?...s&CartID=1

I have these on order...

I also wanted to say that the stock Honda bars and the anti-vibration weights are of a very impressive quality


RE: New owner... Vibrations.. And a question - Ayrshire Dunx_imp - 05-26-2021

Yes mine vibrates like he** and in exactly the same range too. Only 1300 miles on the clock. More alarmingly I have just checked and the chain has stretched so much in that time that the rear wheel will have to be set back, check yours too.


RE: New owner... Vibrations.. And a question - Whoops - 05-26-2021

(05-26-2021, 05:26 PM)lazz_imp Wrote: Really appreciate all the replies

(05-26-2021, 12:52 PM)pekingduck_imp Wrote: Are the original handlebars, bar end weights, and mirrors still on it?
Any modifications?


Nope totally stock... The bar end weights are properly attached

(I checked after the screw holding the right bar end weight backed itself out on a ride!)
(05-26-2021, 04:50 PM)Tev62_imp Wrote: Are any engine bars fitted correctly? SW-Motech bars on Africa Twins used to cause bad vibration when wrongly self-fitted by a lot of owners, it was only a small mistake (bad fitting diagrams) but it made a very big difference.

No engine bars, all the mounting points seem secure
(05-26-2021, 05:24 PM)jtopiso_imp Wrote:
(05-26-2021, 02:26 AM)lazz_imp Wrote: Hi everyone,

recently bought a CB1100EX 6speed that had just been run in.

I really like the bike in all respects and it seems perfect for my needs.

Except, on my bike, the constant vibrations/buzz in the midrange (from 3K to 5K) are intensely intrusive. To the extent that on a recent 3 hour run, my hands and feet were buzzing for several hours afterwards. I was wearing full riding gear.

I have been riding for 20 years, everything form old brits to racing ducatis with many guzzis in between and a fair few inline 4s. My daily round town ride up until now has been a 1970 Triumph twin and that causes me no problems in terms of vibration! (I mean the thumping vibration is there, but it is transient, unlike the constant buzz on my new honda) Heck, I've been using a 1960s guzzi police bike for the past 4 years for my long distance work.... So I don't believe I'm overly sensitive to vibrations.

I use a motorcycle as my primary mode of transport and ride far and often.

There are a few others who have complained about vibration on this forum and many who haven't, what I'm trying to figure out is whether my particular bike has a fault or if this is just a characteristic of the model.

Do you all just keep the revs under 3k?

Does anybody out there have a bike that is smooth between 3K and 5K?

Any info/data points gratefully appreciated

Ride safe,

Thanks


Probably not related, but I bought my bike brand new, and it had a strange vibration (not a buzz: a vibration). The cause was a bad set of tyres: both from and rear were out of round.

Make sure that your problem it's not speed related, but rpm related to rule this out.


Probably not related, but I bought my bike brand new, and it had a strange vibration (not a buzz: a vibration). The cause was a bad set of tyres: both from and rear were out of round.

Make sure that your problem it's not speed related, but rpm related to rule this out.
yes, it's rpm related
(05-26-2021, 10:46 AM)Lord Popgun_imp Wrote: Mine wasn’t totally smoothed out until 2500-3500 miles. Just kept getting better and better then been the same since.

this info gives me hope!!!
(05-26-2021, 12:30 PM)Whoops_imp Wrote: I have a vibration issue as well and added Grip Puppies. They helped a bit, but not enough. I was actually looking at heavier bar ends as it was suggested in a thread here from years ago but I never saw a follow up post to see if they worked to reduce vibrations at the grips or not. These are what were suggested…

[url=https://www.hvmp.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=Honda%2DBar%2DEnds&CartID=1]https://www.hvmp.com/ProductDetails.asp?...s&CartID=1

I have these on order...

I also wanted to say that the stock Honda bars and the anti-vibration weights are of a very impressive quality

I have these on order...

I also wanted to say that the stock Honda bars and the anti-vibration weights are of a very impressive quality
Excellent! Please reply back when you get them installed and tested. I would love to know what they do for you.


RE: New owner... Vibrations.. And a question - lazz_imp - 05-27-2021

(05-26-2021, 09:39 PM)Ayrshire Dunx_imp Wrote: Yes mine vibrates like he** and in exactly the same range too. Only 1300 miles on the clock. More alarmingly I have just checked and the chain has stretched so much in that time that the rear wheel will have to be set back, check yours too.

Very interesting...

Lets share notes?

Did you get yours new? Or low mileage used?

Will get to checking my chain tonight


RE: New owner... Vibrations.. And a question - Ayrshire Dunx_imp - 05-27-2021

(05-27-2021, 03:53 AM)lazz_imp Wrote:
(05-26-2021, 09:39 PM)Ayrshire Dunx_imp Wrote: Yes mine vibrates like he** and in exactly the same range too. Only 1300 miles on the clock. More alarmingly I have just checked and the chain has stretched so much in that time that the rear wheel will have to be set back, check yours too.

Very interesting...

Lets share notes?

Did you get yours new? Or low mileage used?

Will get to checking my chain tonight

Very interesting...

Lets share notes?

Did you get yours new? Or low mileage used?

Will get to checking my chain tonight

New last October. Still love it tho!


RE: New owner... Vibrations.. And a question - lazz_imp - 05-27-2021

(05-27-2021, 05:51 AM)Ayrshire Dunx_imp Wrote:
(05-27-2021, 03:53 AM)lazz_imp Wrote:
(05-26-2021, 09:39 PM)Ayrshire Dunx_imp Wrote: Yes mine vibrates like he** and in exactly the same range too. Only 1300 miles on the clock. More alarmingly I have just checked and the chain has stretched so much in that time that the rear wheel will have to be set back, check yours too.

Very interesting...

Lets share notes?

Did you get yours new? Or low mileage used?

Will get to checking my chain tonight

Very interesting...

Lets share notes?

Did you get yours new? Or low mileage used?

Will get to checking my chain tonight

New last October. Still love it tho!

Glad to hear that,

it shouldn't vibrate like h--- though. Mine certainly vibrates very much more than any modern bike should. Even in the 'sweet spot' it's not super smooth.

Today I rode a half hour through country lanes, a roads and b roads, I kept the revs below 3k mostly (sometimes overtaking is desirable for example)

I felt quite disappointed to have a new motorbike that is built and designed so beautifully, that fits me so well, but that only gives me a comfortably usable powerband of a couple of thousand rpm



I wonder if there could have been a dodgy batch in the uk? Mine's a 19 plate that I bought used at very low mileage from a UK honda dealer.

On the off-chance that 2 of us have the same fault on bikes of similar engine numbers the dealer might not be so dismissive?


RE: New owner... Vibrations.. And a question - GoldOxide_imp - 05-27-2021

The design shouldn't be outrageously rough. I'd say like Popgun and consider giving it a another 3000 to 5000 kms. If still there, then my guess is something mounted is still fundamentally not provisioned properly.


RE: New owner... Vibrations.. And a question - lazz_imp - 05-27-2021

(05-27-2021, 06:41 AM)GoldOxide_imp Wrote: The design shouldn't be outrageously rough. I'd say like Popgun and consider giving it a another 3000 to 5000 kms. If still there, then my guess is something mounted is still fundamentally not provisioned properly.

thanks

forgot to mention... one of the screws holding the bar end weights vibrated clean off on one of my previous runs... It just doesn't seem very honda like to me...