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RE: Should I only change front time of different brand? - Rocky_imp - 08-01-2014
My Triumph T100 Bonneville came from the factory with a Metzler bias tire on the front and a Metzler radial on the back. (??)
I really didn't notice the difference until the time came for new tires and I started reading what was on the sidewalls.
The bike rode and handled fine. I had a set of Bridgestone's fitted and the bikes rides and handles exactly the same as before.
I'm not a hard rider, but I enjoy, shall we say, "spirited" riding
RE: Should I only change front time of different brand? - Pauley - 08-01-2014
(07-31-2014, 11:51 PM)Rboe_imp Wrote: After being out of the hobby for over twenty years, I come back and find that conventional wisdom is strongly suggesting changing both tires at the same time. Now I didn't on the last tire (replaced due to holes, not wear) and at the price of some of these tires that can be a large pill to swallow. But ideally, do both and keep them in the same family.
I suspect the "replace both at the same time" mantra comes from the tire industry.
(08-01-2014, 01:34 AM)Rocky_imp Wrote: My Triumph T100 Bonneville came from the factory with a Metzler bias tire on the front and a Metzler radial on the back. (??)
I really didn't notice the difference until the time came for new tires and I started reading what was on the sidewalls.
The bike rode and handled fine. I had a set of Bridgestone's fitted and the bikes rides and handles exactly the same as before.
I'm not a hard rider, but I enjoy, shall we say, "spirited" riding
I looked around on some other forums. Bias ply rear and radial on the front is pretty common OE (especially cruisers, Triumph does it a lot). People report that mixing bias ply and radial on cars is disastrous, but not on motorcycles.
Conventional wisdom I've always heard is that mixing is a no no. This sort of changes that....
RE: Should I only change front time of different brand? - cbdtran_imp - 08-01-2014
(08-01-2014, 02:44 AM)Pauley_imp Wrote:(07-31-2014, 11:51 PM)Rboe_imp Wrote: After being out of the hobby for over twenty years, I come back and find that conventional wisdom is strongly suggesting changing both tires at the same time. Now I didn't on the last tire (replaced due to holes, not wear) and at the price of some of these tires that can be a large pill to swallow. But ideally, do both and keep them in the same family.
I suspect the "replace both at the same time" mantra comes from the tire industry.
(08-01-2014, 01:34 AM)Rocky_imp Wrote: My Triumph T100 Bonneville came from the factory with a Metzler bias tire on the front and a Metzler radial on the back. (??)
I really didn't notice the difference until the time came for new tires and I started reading what was on the sidewalls.
The bike rode and handled fine. I had a set of Bridgestone's fitted and the bikes rides and handles exactly the same as before.
I'm not a hard rider, but I enjoy, shall we say, "spirited" riding
I looked around on some other forums. Bias ply rear and radial on the front is pretty common OE (especially cruisers, Triumph does it a lot). People report that mixing bias ply and radial on cars is disastrous, but not on motorcycles.
Conventional wisdom I've always heard is that mixing is a no no. This sort of changes that....
I tend to agree with you since tire in front and back act independent of each other ... to be safe, i will buy the Dunlop Sportmax II the successor of D205. Long lasting tires and sticky is what I am after.
RE: Should I only change front time of different brand? - The Spaceman_imp - 08-01-2014
Over the years I got used to a 2-1 ratio of rear/front tire consumption, but my CB wore both out about the same time. But, it doesn't seem too onerous to wear out too fronts and a rear before trying a new tire brand or model.
RE: Should I only change front time of different brand? - flynrider - 08-01-2014
(08-01-2014, 02:44 AM)Pauley_imp Wrote:(07-31-2014, 11:51 PM)Rboe_imp Wrote: After being out of the hobby for over twenty years, I come back and find that conventional wisdom is strongly suggesting changing both tires at the same time. Now I didn't on the last tire (replaced due to holes, not wear) and at the price of some of these tires that can be a large pill to swallow. But ideally, do both and keep them in the same family.
I suspect the "replace both at the same time" mantra comes from the tire industry.
(08-01-2014, 01:34 AM)Rocky_imp Wrote: My Triumph T100 Bonneville came from the factory with a Metzler bias tire on the front and a Metzler radial on the back. (??)
I really didn't notice the difference until the time came for new tires and I started reading what was on the sidewalls.
The bike rode and handled fine. I had a set of Bridgestone's fitted and the bikes rides and handles exactly the same as before.
I'm not a hard rider, but I enjoy, shall we say, "spirited" riding
I looked around on some other forums. Bias ply rear and radial on the front is pretty common OE (especially cruisers, Triumph does it a lot). People report that mixing bias ply and radial on cars is disastrous, but not on motorcycles.
Conventional wisdom I've always heard is that mixing is a no no. This sort of changes that....
Interesting. I have to admit, my reluctance to mix types comes from cage experience. I guess I always assumed that mixing them on a bike would give equally bad results (and, as you say, it was the conventional wisdom).
If I'd known about this a few weeks ago, I definitely would have gone with the BT-45 as my new front tire.
Should I only change front time of different brand? - Pauley - 08-01-2014
The anecdotes on mixing all seem to favor bias ply rear and radial front. Research was not exhaustive by any stretch.
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RE: Should I only change front time of different brand? - Gingersdaddy_imp - 08-01-2014
The Shadow we just bought for my wife only had 3500 miles on it the rear looks like new, front did too except for cracks in the sidewall. Just ordered a Commander II to replace it with. Both are bias ply.
RE: Should I only change front time of different brand? - cbdtran_imp - 08-01-2014
(08-01-2014, 08:54 AM)Flynrider_imp Wrote:(08-01-2014, 02:44 AM)Pauley_imp Wrote:(07-31-2014, 11:51 PM)Rboe_imp Wrote: After being out of the hobby for over twenty years, I come back and find that conventional wisdom is strongly suggesting changing both tires at the same time. Now I didn't on the last tire (replaced due to holes, not wear) and at the price of some of these tires that can be a large pill to swallow. But ideally, do both and keep them in the same family.
I suspect the "replace both at the same time" mantra comes from the tire industry.
(08-01-2014, 01:34 AM)Rocky_imp Wrote: My Triumph T100 Bonneville came from the factory with a Metzler bias tire on the front and a Metzler radial on the back. (??)
I really didn't notice the difference until the time came for new tires and I started reading what was on the sidewalls.
The bike rode and handled fine. I had a set of Bridgestone's fitted and the bikes rides and handles exactly the same as before.
I'm not a hard rider, but I enjoy, shall we say, "spirited" riding
I looked around on some other forums. Bias ply rear and radial on the front is pretty common OE (especially cruisers, Triumph does it a lot). People report that mixing bias ply and radial on cars is disastrous, but not on motorcycles.
Conventional wisdom I've always heard is that mixing is a no no. This sort of changes that....
Interesting. I have to admit, my reluctance to mix types comes from cage experience. I guess I always assumed that mixing them on a bike would give equally bad results (and, as you say, it was the conventional wisdom).
If I'd known about this a few weeks ago, I definitely would have gone with the BT-45 as my new front tire.
in car - tires **should be** the same on same axle. so you can have 2 tire types on a car.
The reason is for braking and acceleration, in emergency braking, you want tires on same axle bite the road of same force.
there are a lot of misconception when i change tires of my son's car, they say put a new pair in the back. It does't make sense, the front pair should be the better one, for braking. if one tire would blow up, I prefer the one in the back blows up since front tires provide directional control.
RE: Should I only change front time of different brand? - cbdtran_imp - 08-07-2014
I just order Dunlop RoadSmart II for the front, the OEM Dunlop and the RoadSmart II are both radial tires, so I assume it is okay, will install them after another 1K because I want to use the tire to the max.
RE: Should I only change front time of different brand? - mikedude_imp - 09-05-2014
(07-31-2014, 07:47 AM)CIP57_imp Wrote: If there both original tires its a good idea to change them both at the same time. When my front is shot I change the rear.
As mentioned, you can change brands, i would put a radial to match the back.
Let me get this straight.When your front tire is shot,you replace the rear tire.How does THAT help you?