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Retro bikes, comparison. - Elipten_imp - 04-02-2015
Reflash can fix all of that
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RE: Retro bikes, comparison. - uscgmac_imp - 04-02-2015
(04-02-2015, 11:34 AM)Elipten_imp Wrote: Reflash can fix all of that
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I was just trying to read up on that. I found some older posts which stated there was no reflash for this bike. Can you confirm that there is a reflash and is it available at the dealer or is it a custom thing.
Retro bikes, comparison. - Elipten_imp - 04-02-2015
Search on site there are many posts. Guhl is the man you want to send it to for reflash.
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RE: Retro bikes, comparison. - flynrider - 04-02-2015
(04-02-2015, 11:40 AM)uscgmac_imp Wrote:(04-02-2015, 11:34 AM)Elipten_imp Wrote: Reflash can fix all of that
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I was just trying to read up on that. I found some older posts which stated there was no reflash for this bike. Can you confirm that there is a reflash and is it available at the dealer or is it a custom thing.
Not dealer thing. Don Guhl at Guhl Motors does the reflash. Here's a thread about it : http://cb1100forum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=4004
Not sure why your rev limiter would kick in at 6500. Mine doesn't kick in until above 8K rpm, which is not a problem for me. If you review the dyno charts for this bike, you'll see that power peaks at around 7300 rpm and starts falling off from there. Not much benefit to going higher.
Personally, I don't care for the speed limiter and have bounced off of it a couple of times, but so far it hasn't bothered me to the point of pulling the ECU and paying to have the limiter removed.
RE: Retro bikes, comparison. - uscgmac_imp - 04-02-2015
Must be the speed limiter, not rev limiter. In 6th gear at 112 MPH the bike was at about 6500 rpm and bike just stopped pulling. The rpms just bounced off that point and that was it. In a lower gear I'm sure the rmps would be higher.
Retro bikes, comparison. - Elipten_imp - 04-02-2015
Bike has both, speed and rev limiter.
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RE: Retro bikes, comparison. - flynrider - 04-03-2015
(04-02-2015, 12:54 PM)uscgmac_imp Wrote: Must be the speed limiter, not rev limiter. In 6th gear at 112 MPH the bike was at about 6500 rpm and bike just stopped pulling. The rpms just bounced off that point and that was it. In a lower gear I'm sure the rmps would be higher.Yep. At 112 MPH the speed limiter kicks in no matter what the rpm is. Not sure about the '14 models with different gearing, but on the '13 you will always hit the speed limiter in 4th or 5th before you get to the rev limiter.
RE: Retro bikes, comparison. - pearsonm_imp - 04-03-2015
Ever hear the joke 'Know what a camel is? It’s a horse, designed by committee'.
That’s what I think of when I look at the new CB1000. It looks like one department wanted an early CB750, another wanted a late CB750 and another wanted a CB1100. The early 750 guys got to pick the fenders, the late 750 guys picked out the wheels and the 1100 guys got the gas tank.
Personally I would have stuck with the 750 and gone with an F-model theme but I would be satisfied had they picked one design and stuck to it.
Regarding retro bikes in general, it’s the late 70’s/early 80’s Superbikes that get my blood pumping. Kawasaki updated the ZRX in ’09 but they haven’t imported it. I’d love for Honda or Suzuki to beat them to the punch with a Freddie Spencer or Wes Cooley replica.
RE: Retro bikes, comparison. - the Ferret - 04-03-2015
That’s what I think of when I look at the new CB1000. It looks like one department wanted an early CB750, another wanted a late CB750 and another wanted a CB1100. The early 750 guys got to pick the fenders, the late 750 guys picked out the wheels and the 1100 guys got the gas tank.
Pearsonm... The bike wasn't designed to look like any one model but as a homage to all the great inlines that made Honda famous and loved by motorcyclists all over the world. Had they designed it to look like just one model it would have alienated all the fans of the other models. We all see a little bit of our favorite models in the CB1100 and many modify it to more closely resemble their personal favorites. there is even body work available that resembles the 750F that you seem to favor. Body work and exhausts to resemble the early 750/4's. I even saw one that resembled a CBX. One of our members has one with a striking resemblance to the CB 700s Nighthawk.
RE: Retro bikes, comparison. - pearsonm_imp - 04-03-2015
(04-03-2015, 12:24 PM)The ferret_imp Wrote: That’s what I think of when I look at the new CB1000. It looks like one department wanted an early CB750, another wanted a late CB750 and another wanted a CB1100. The early 750 guys got to pick the fenders, the late 750 guys picked out the wheels and the 1100 guys got the gas tank.
Pearsonm... The bike wasn't designed to look like any one model but as a homage to all the great inlines that made Honda famous and loved by motorcyclists all over the world. Had they designed it to look like just one model it would have alienated all the fans of the other models. We all see a little bit of our favorite models in the CB1100 and many modify it to more closely resemble their personal favorites. there is even body work available that resembles the 750F that you seem to favor. Body work and exhausts to resemble the early 750/4's. I even saw one that resembled a CBX. One of our members has one with a striking resemblance to the CB 700s Nighthawk.
Yes, ferret, I'm quite aware of that. My point is that Honda may have missed the mark while trying to mash together such subtle yet disparate styling cues. All the leftover '13's sitting on the floor while Bonneville's continue to sell is evidence that others may feel the same way. Considering what '69 through '76 K-models and Whitehorse kits go for I sure wouldn't bet against a modern, faithful replica.