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RE: defects CB 1100 - j3gq_imp - 12-03-2020

(12-03-2020, 05:29 PM)Olof_imp Wrote: The headline is 'defects' but we're discussing preferences, by definition a personal thing. This has already been stated (several times), but to me preferences are also fluid if I'm motivated.

Years back, when I spent a lot of time on tracks, I routinely and extensively modded everhing that was unfortunate enough to enter my garage, 'fixing it' so it would be 'rideable'. An old friend of mine, professional motocrosser in the 50s and 60s (Lito-framed Ariel 500, raced in Sweden, Belgium and France) just shook his head: "Learn to ride what you got first. Adapt. Then modify, if you really need to". That stuck (eventually) and I found that his philosophy went a long way.

While this aimed for improving lap times it also works on the road, and with the CB. For example, coming from sports bikes I prefer head-down-tucked-in riding position which the CB does support at all. But if I just shift back on the seat and bend my arms a little I'm fine, and in city traffic the upright position is bliss. Another: the CB seems to like steering 'helps' through the pegs much more than I'm used to. So I relax input through the bars and try to focus more on the pegs. Awkward at first, second nature after a while. A third: spirited oovertaking calls for a bit more planning and downshifting than my previous big bore twins. So I try to get used to that, eventually finding it engaging and enjoyable.

So, no mods needed. But, which is important, I need to be motivated to adapt. If I don't really like the bike that much I just can't be bothered. The CB motivates, however. The more I experience this bike the more I consider myself lucky I've got one and I really enjoy 'getting it'.

By the way, my friend still has his Ariel 500, complete with spare engine in a wheathered wood box, just as it finished its last race, and rides it every now and then. And not slowly either Smile

Like this tune a lot, and I will certainly have to figure out in spring whether I am already doing the 'peg steering' intuitively (without being aware of it), or whether this will become a trick for my toolbox.


RE: defects CB 1100 - rboe - 12-05-2020

Declaring a bike uncomfortable is very subjective; we all bend differently. Ones height is not the full story either, Inseam, arm length - both are very important. Big bum and small bum probably has a fair amount of bearing too.

Being in shape to ride long rides is huge. Which is why the ride home is usually a lot easier than the ride out - you got pummelled into shape! Big Grin

I'm beginning to understand why folks will trailer a bike to a destination.......


RE: defects CB 1100 - the Ferret - 12-05-2020

(12-05-2020, 11:36 AM)Rboe_imp Wrote: Declaring a bike uncomfortable is very subjective; we all bend differently. Ones height is not the full story either, Inseam, arm length - both are very important. Big bum and small bum probably has a fair amount of bearing too.

Being in shape to ride long rides is huge. Which is why the ride home is usually a lot easier than the ride out - you got pummelled into shape! Big Grin

I'm beginning to understand why folks will trailer a bike to a destination.......

Probably why I have no issues with stock seats or long hours in the saddle. Nearly daily riding since 1965 has kept my bum and body pummelled into " riding shape"


RE: defects CB 1100 - GoldOxide_imp - 12-05-2020

I wonder if it wasn't for the Iron Butt Association, if today it would instead be called the "Hard-@ssed Association"? (given that over the decades many words have been relaxed)


defects CB 1100 - IndianRider_imp - 12-07-2020

(11-24-2020, 04:27 PM)Ale72_imp Wrote: thank you guys.
known that many consider the engine anonymous and many have raised the saddle and lowered the motorcycle footpegs as it is designed for Chinese and Japanese with average height different from us Westerners.


This the the most ridiculous post I have ever seen on this forum even if I have traveled far and seen many cultures and barriers including half of Italy and I love Italians.


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RE: defects CB 1100 - Cormanus - 12-07-2020

I'm sure you've noticed that it's been the subject of some discussion already, IndianRider. I regret not deleting it when I first saw it.


RE: defects CB 1100 - rboe - 12-08-2020

To be fair, considering his tall stature, it's an easy knee jerk assumption to make. Once a little bit of thoughtful reflection (and some added data from concerned forum members) one can see the folly in the statement.

I know over the years I've said some pretty dumb things not knowing the full picture. Alas; I don't seem to avoid that pitfal - but I seem to do it less. Smile

So I'd cut him some slack.


RE: defects CB 1100 - the Ferret - 12-08-2020

I have heard that statement (minus the Chinese part) for 50 years. That these bikes are built for short Japanese riders that weigh 150 pounds. This is nothing new. Dont believe the statement to be true, but it's nothing we haven't heard for decades.

Unfortunately it's hard to design/build bikes that fit 5'5" guys like me, and 6'4" guys like Longranger or Rboe, and guys that weigh 130 and guys that weigh 250. That's how the aftermarket got its start, making bike built for the middle, to fit guys on the opposing ends of the height/ weight spectrum.


RE: defects CB 1100 - LongRanger_imp - 12-08-2020

6’6”. 6’4”, I wish!


RE: defects CB 1100 - Houtman_imp - 12-08-2020

Rboe , I still say dumb things at seventy years old .