(07-07-2016, 07:19 AM)lola_imp Wrote: Look at how clean that freeway is... No tar snakes and little bitty pot holes, wish California roads were like that.

Efforts are being made to make Californians even more aware of motorcylists out in the wild concrete jungle in general using Radio and TV ads and even a billboard near where I live which is cool to see every now and again. It's just that some motorcyclists abuse that privilege we have (lane splitting) speed and aggressiveness in its action is what makes it dangerous in the eye of the public and some riders as well that are not familiar with lane splitting. We Californians are just lucky I guess.

I cant see myself sitting behind a lifted diesel truck with a 4 barrel 4 inch diameter exhausts in front of my face and my air cooled CB cooking legs to a crisp in 100 degree weather.

(07-06-2016, 10:06 PM)curlyjoe_imp Wrote: To me, lane splitting and filtering is anti-social behavior and is equivalent to cutting in at the front of the que. I doubt any of us would cut in front of the que at a grocery store check out line so why do it on the road?

(07-07-2016, 06:26 AM)The ferret_imp Wrote: On todays ride I thought a lot about this thread. I tried running 18 mph for awhile as is the limit in Australia when filtering. Imagined running between a line of cars. It is kind of slow lol. Tried in first and second gears. In second it's like 1500 rpms. in first IIRC it was around 3000 rpms? The line had better be short that you're filtering on because you are not going to pass many unless it's a long light. If there are a lot of cars you have to pass I imagine they will be taking off before you get to the head of the line and you are going to have to merge left or right into a lane. A better speed for me seemed to be between 25 and 30 mph, in second gear.

So I headed to the freeway since I had to run across town to the Guzzi dealer to pick up a can of Plexus for my brother. Yea at this time of day there wasn't enough traffic to play the splitting game unless you were just picking off 1 vehicle at a time.

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one thing I noticed on our roads were hthe pot holes all seemed to be right where a motorcycle would be splitting on the striped lane divides

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here you can see where the state has come thru and just patched right where the lane dividers are

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I did come up behind vehicles that were running side by side and skooched over on the lane divider looking at the distance between them to imagine going through. I thought Naaaa not me lol. Could probably do it, but I don't have to...... thank goodness

(07-07-2016, 10:30 AM)dsinned_imp Wrote: Another factor in favor of lane splitting and/or filtering is FATIGUE. Riding a motorcycle at very slow speed is VERY tiring. Constantly clutching/shifting between lower gears, keeping the bike balanced and going straight, watching out for all the cars around you, and image how much more difficult this would be with a passenger. Not to mention, if it is really warm outside, and you have a full face helmet on, the human body is literally being dehydrated more and more with every mile of impeded traffic.

The example given of being stuck in a long tunnel, gasping for clean air, is another reason for getting further ahead PRONTO.

Again, I do it in moderation as a circumstantial means to an end, to get out of a horrible riding environment! If it is like a parking lot for miles on end, I will usually take the next off ramp and look for a nice air conditioned restaurant to kill time while having a meal to let the traffic clear. In the worse case scenario, I might even turn around and go back the other way - which is usually free of traffic - if I had just set out from home.

(07-06-2016, 10:14 AM)The ferret_imp Wrote: What say ye Randy, Ulve, MMC, Aschem, Lunatic, Retsel et al can you guys keep to down to max 30 kph (18 mph?)

Ulve that would no doubt require you to be under 4500 rpms lol

(07-07-2016, 10:10 AM)The ferret_imp Wrote: No no no Ptero I didn't try and do 18 mph on the freeway .... I'd have gotten run over. I was on a back road with no traffic. I understand perfectly what your filtering law and speed is all about. I wanted to see what riding 18 mph for a bit was like since I never do that in everyday riding. Try riding 100 yards at 18 mph sometime. It takes for ev er. Kinda like a slow race at a field meet.