I was doing some research on service schedules for various bikes and I see Suzuki have followed Honda's practice of NOT recommending an oil filter change at every oil service. Our CB is recommended every other oil change as is the Africa Twin and I'm sure a lot of other Honda bikes too.
But Suzuki, on their latest 2023 V-Strom 800DE only want you to change the oil filter every third oil change, albeit they are every 6,000km.
I applaud this realism in what an oil filter is being asked to do and how much less work they need to do on todays modern engines. It saves the consumer another cost and is reducing the amount of resources used. The argument being that as the filter ages it is increasingly adept of filtering ever finer particles without detrimental loss of flow.
And on that subject here is me doing a 3000km oil change today on my flat four powered air-cooled machine (VW style) which doesn't even have an oil filter, just a single weight SAE30 oil with a high zinc content.
(06-19-2023, 11:33 PM)Tev62_imp Wrote: [ -> ]I was doing some research on service schedules for various bikes and I see Suzuki have followed Honda's practice of NOT recommending an oil filter change at every oil service. Our CB is recommended every other oil change as is the Africa Twin and I'm sure a lot of other Honda bikes too.
But Suzuki, on their latest 2023 V-Strom 800DE only want you to change the oil filter every third oil change, albeit they are every 6,000km.
I applaud this realism in what an oil filter is being asked to do and how much less work they need to do on todays modern engines. It saves the consumer another cost and is reducing the amount of resources used. The argument being that as the filter ages it is increasingly adept of filtering ever finer particles without detrimental loss of flow.
And on that subject here is me doing a 3000km oil change today on my flat four powered air-cooled machine (VW style) which doesn't even have an oil filter, just a single weight SAE30 oil with a high zinc content.
Gotta see some more pictures of that machine
2014 CB1100, 1981 KZ440 LTD, 1993 Yamaha XJ600 Seca, 1994 Yamaha XJ600 Seca
(06-19-2023, 11:36 PM)mvk24_imp Wrote: [ -> ] (06-19-2023, 11:33 PM)Tev62_imp Wrote: [ -> ]I was doing some research on service schedules for various bikes and I see Suzuki have followed Honda's practice of NOT recommending an oil filter change at every oil service. Our CB is recommended every other oil change as is the Africa Twin and I'm sure a lot of other Honda bikes too.
But Suzuki, on their latest 2023 V-Strom 800DE only want you to change the oil filter every third oil change, albeit they are every 6,000km.
I applaud this realism in what an oil filter is being asked to do and how much less work they need to do on todays modern engines. It saves the consumer another cost and is reducing the amount of resources used. The argument being that as the filter ages it is increasingly adept of filtering ever finer particles without detrimental loss of flow.
And on that subject here is me doing a 3000km oil change today on my flat four powered air-cooled machine (VW style) which doesn't even have an oil filter, just a single weight SAE30 oil with a high zinc content.
Gotta see some more pictures of that machine
2014 CB1100, 1981 KZ440 LTD, 1993 Yamaha XJ600 Seca, 1994 Yamaha XJ600 Seca
Happy to oblige mvk24, just finished up...I hasten to add, it is a replica.
(06-20-2023, 12:04 AM)Tev62_imp Wrote: [ -> ] (06-19-2023, 11:36 PM)mvk24_imp Wrote: [ -> ] (06-19-2023, 11:33 PM)Tev62_imp Wrote: [ -> ]I was doing some research on service schedules for various bikes and I see Suzuki have followed Honda's practice of NOT recommending an oil filter change at every oil service. Our CB is recommended every other oil change as is the Africa Twin and I'm sure a lot of other Honda bikes too.
But Suzuki, on their latest 2023 V-Strom 800DE only want you to change the oil filter every third oil change, albeit they are every 6,000km.
I applaud this realism in what an oil filter is being asked to do and how much less work they need to do on todays modern engines. It saves the consumer another cost and is reducing the amount of resources used. The argument being that as the filter ages it is increasingly adept of filtering ever finer particles without detrimental loss of flow.
And on that subject here is me doing a 3000km oil change today on my flat four powered air-cooled machine (VW style) which doesn't even have an oil filter, just a single weight SAE30 oil with a high zinc content.
Gotta see some more pictures of that machine
2014 CB1100, 1981 KZ440 LTD, 1993 Yamaha XJ600 Seca, 1994 Yamaha XJ600 Seca
Happy to oblige mvk24, just finished up...I hasten to add, it is a replica.
Happy to oblige mvk24, just finished up...I hasten to add, it is a replica. Very cool!
2014 CB1100, 1981 KZ440 LTD, 1993 Yamaha XJ600 Seca, 1994 Yamaha XJ600 Seca
Sweet ride! I did a lot of work building a Factory Five Cobra replica for a friend years back. Loved that car, but if I were to build one purely for myself, it would be Speedster replica.
And, on the other subject, I'll have to check my manuals to see what they say about filter change interval vs. just oil. Makes sense if you're not grenading something metallic.
Tev, that is truly a beauty. Thank you for sharing. Something about that design that just got it right, replica or not.
It would drive some purists crazy, but I am changing oil and filters per Honda's recommendation on the NC 750. Oil every 8,000 miles and filters every 16,000 miles.
I'll probably continue changing oil and filter together on the CB every 4K, just because I always have.
Filters? We don't need no stinkin' filters! Need to tear the engine down every 40K miles or so to clean the slingers, but think of all the money saved on filters!
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