The CB1100 Community Forum

(08-18-2015, 06:18 AM)Motogeezer1949_imp Wrote: [ -> ]The same way my Aprilia Tuono helped me learn mono skills

That, and add obnoxious, but wildly entertaining, aftermarket exhaust sound to the mix, and you are in for some "exhibition of acceleration" trouble on top of wheelies.

I find it really funny how people call this a slow bike, or a more relaxed ride. A geezer bike? Oh my god, maybe for some but not others. The CB1100 is a throwback to the CB750 of the 70's, which was the first bike ever dubbed a "superbike".

I'll be honest, I like ride my CB1100 for all its worth. Hard pulls, redline shifts, dropping gears just because it sounds amazing. I've been riding for a decade, and the CB1100's acceleration still scares me on occasion. I came from a GS500 and heck I'd make that thing go too, bit it never had the same twist-and-go at any RPM.

Maybe people's perspective changes since there are so many faster bikes out there, but when I'm riding, I think back to how to my dad, this was a superbike then, and to me, it still is now.

90% rider, 10% bike IMO.

(08-19-2015, 10:09 PM)skimhitz_imp Wrote: [ -> ]I find it really funny how people call this a slow bike, or a more relaxed ride. A geezer bike? Oh my god, maybe for some but not others. The CB1100 is a throwback to the CB750 of the 70's, which was the first bike ever dubbed a "superbike".

I'll be honest, I like ride my CB1100 for all its worth. Hard pulls, redline shifts, dropping gears just because it sounds amazing. I've been riding for a decade, and the CB1100's acceleration still scares me on occasion. I came from a GS500 and heck I'd make that thing go too, bit it never had the same twist-and-go at any RPM.

Maybe people's perspective changes since there are so many faster bikes out there, but when I'm riding, I think back to how to my dad, this was a superbike then, and to me, it still is now.

Couldn't agree more. With the exception of competing at the track, it's hard to imagine ever needing more bike than this. At least for me. And I ain't heading to the track anytime soon, so there ya go. - Karl

(08-20-2015, 08:54 AM)Motogeezer1949_imp Wrote: [ -> ]90% rider, 10% bike IMO.

Yep! Whether it be on a twisty road or a track day, I wonder how many testosterone filled young men have been humbled over the years by some graying, 50+ year old guy wearing faded leathers on a SV650 or a EX500 with a measley 60 HP.

Humbled? Maybe not too many. Embarrassed? Probably quite a few! It happened to me more than once when I was younger.

The great thing about the SVs is not only do they handle but you can be somewhat ham-fisted with them exiting corners. Those bikes are really well sorted. I chased those on my 1000 day in and day out. I could better them at a track like Texas World but at a small venue like Hallett or Cresson, watch out.

(08-19-2015, 10:09 PM)skimhitz_imp Wrote: [ -> ]I find it really funny how people call this a slow bike, or a more relaxed ride. A geezer bike? Oh my god, maybe for some but not others. The CB1100 is a throwback to the CB750 of the 70's, which was the first bike ever dubbed a "superbike".

I'll be honest, I like ride my CB1100 for all its worth. Hard pulls, redline shifts, dropping gears just because it sounds amazing. I've been riding for a decade, and the CB1100's acceleration still scares me on occasion. I came from a GS500 and heck I'd make that thing go too, bit it never had the same twist-and-go at any RPM.

Maybe people's perspective changes since there are so many faster bikes out there, but when I'm riding, I think back to how to my dad, this was a superbike then, and to me, it still is now.

When my W800 was in service for guarantee sometime ago, the dealer gave my a
Kawa 1000SX as a substitute. All the time I wondered, what should I do
with its power. Still overpowering the 145HP after
I tried some of them out, so overpowering, that I decided not to wring it out.

When I got my W back it feels so much more comfortable in every aspect of motorcycling.

The CB is something in between and I mostly even don't use all the power this
bike provides. Still enough and fast enough...somehow more than I need
but still fond of having the strength.

Wisedrum

Someone far up, had it right. This is a geezer glide.

It's in its element when it's ridden easy. Balanced; quiet, smooth, for the most part. Sure, it'll get up and go...like a 60s Coupe de Ville. But neither is to be drag-raced.

I have done 110 mph on two wheels - once. An empty highway in South Dakota. I'm glad I did and I don't think I'll do it again - things come up WAY too fast.

With the windshield on, I find 85 to be a nice cruising speed. Fast enough to cover ground; slow enough not to excite LE too much. Good fuel economy, even at that speed - my trip through Oregon had me at 54 mpg.

No...that's the kind of riding this bike was made for, and is perfect for. Those looking for a crotch-rocket would best shop elsewhere - or else, wait for a wrecked or blown-up CB11 to do an engine swap.

(08-19-2015, 10:09 PM)skimhitz_imp Wrote: [ -> ]I find it really funny how people call this a slow bike, or a more relaxed ride. A geezer bike? Oh my god, maybe for some but not others. The CB1100 is a throwback to the CB750 of the 70's, which was the first bike ever dubbed a "superbike".

I'll be honest, I like ride my CB1100 for all its worth. Hard pulls, redline shifts, dropping gears just because it sounds amazing. I've been riding for a decade, and the CB1100's acceleration still scares me on occasion. I came from a GS500 and heck I'd make that thing go too, bit it never had the same twist-and-go at any RPM.

Maybe people's perspective changes since there are so many faster bikes out there, but when I'm riding, I think back to how to my dad, this was a superbike then, and to me, it still is now.

Hmmm. IIRC (I never owned one) the 750 was MUCH more a revver. It had maybe a little more power, in an era where a 500 was a touring bike and 50hp was potent.

A lot of guys my age (late 50s) had those. This is a chance for them to re-live the experience...but, the way older guys re-live those hot cars.

Sedately. Or, more sedately, anyway.

The fat torque curve, I'm sure, isn't accidental. In my old age, I find gear-shifting constantly a bit of a pain. So, I can get it up; and any speed over 50 is good on 6th. Anything over 40 up to the limit, good on 5th.

So...yeah. It's a recreation of the CB750...for EXACTLY the same owners, allowing for how age has mellowed us.

(08-28-2015, 05:48 PM)JustPassinThru_imp Wrote: [ -> ]Someone far up, had it right. This is a geezer glide.

It's in its element when it's ridden easy. Balanced; quiet, smooth, for the most part. Sure, it'll get up and go...like a 60s Coupe de Ville. But neither is to be drag-raced.

I have done 110 mph on two wheels - once. An empty highway in South Dakota. I'm glad I did and I don't think I'll do it again - things come up WAY too fast.

With the windshield on, I find 85 to be a nice cruising speed. Fast enough to cover ground; slow enough not to excite LE too much. Good fuel economy, even at that speed - my trip through Oregon had me at 54 mpg.

No...that's the kind of riding this bike was made for, and is perfect for. Those looking for a crotch-rocket would best shop elsewhere - or else, wait for a wrecked or blown-up CB11 to do an engine swap.

(08-19-2015, 10:09 PM)skimhitz_imp Wrote: [ -> ]I find it really funny how people call this a slow bike, or a more relaxed ride. A geezer bike? Oh my god, maybe for some but not others. The CB1100 is a throwback to the CB750 of the 70's, which was the first bike ever dubbed a "superbike".

I'll be honest, I like ride my CB1100 for all its worth. Hard pulls, redline shifts, dropping gears just because it sounds amazing. I've been riding for a decade, and the CB1100's acceleration still scares me on occasion. I came from a GS500 and heck I'd make that thing go too, bit it never had the same twist-and-go at any RPM.

Maybe people's perspective changes since there are so many faster bikes out there, but when I'm riding, I think back to how to my dad, this was a superbike then, and to me, it still is now.

Hmmm. IIRC (I never owned one) the 750 was MUCH more a revver. It had maybe a little more power, in an era where a 500 was a touring bike and 50hp was potent.

A lot of guys my age (late 50s) had those. This is a chance for them to re-live the experience...but, the way older guys re-live those hot cars.

Sedately. Or, more sedately, anyway.

The fat torque curve, I'm sure, isn't accidental. In my old age, I find gear-shifting constantly a bit of a pain. So, I can get it up; and any speed over 50 is good on 6th. Anything over 40 up to the limit, good on 5th.

So...yeah. It's a recreation of the CB750...for EXACTLY the same owners, allowing for how age has mellowed us.

I'll have to disagree with you on that. Here are the specs on the 750 over the years:
Quote:Specifications

1969 CB750 Four: 736 cc (44.9 cu in) 4 carburetors SOHC 2 67 bhp (50 kW) @ 8000 rpm 59.8 N·m (44.1 lbf·ft) @ 7000 rpm 218 kg (481 lb) (dry) 5-Speed, Constant Mesh, Gearbox, Final Drive Chain

1976–1978 CB750A: 736 cc (44.9 cu in) 4 carburetors SOHC 2 35 kW (47 hp) @ 7500 rpm 5.0 kg-m (36.1 lbf·ft) @ 6000 rpm 262 kg (578 lb) (claimed dry)
259 kg (572 lb) (wet) 2-speed w/torque converter, chain

1978 CB750K: 748 cc (45.6 cu in) 4 carburetors DOHC 4 59 kW (79 hp) @ 9000 rpm 5.9 kg-m (42.7 lbf·ft) @ 7000 rpm 231 kg (509 lb) (dry) 5-Speed, Constant Mesh, Gearbox, Final Drive Chain

1979–1980 CB750F (RC04): 748 cc (45.6 cu in) 4 carburetors DOHC4 59 kW (79 hp) @ 9000 rpm 5.9 kg-m (42.7 lb) @ 8000 rpm 228 kg (503 lb) Dry 5-Speed, Constant Mesh, Gearbox, Final Drive Chain

1980–1982 CB750C Custom: 748 cc (45.6 cu in) 4 carburetors DOHC 4 59 kW (79 hp) @ 9000 rpm 5.9 kg-m (42.7 lbf·ft) @ 7000 rpm 236 kg (520 lb) dry ~252 kg (556 lb) wet 5-Speed, Constant Mesh, Gearbox, Final Drive Chain

1981 CB750F: 748 cc (45.6 cu in) 4 carburetors DOHC 4 59 kW (79 hp) 5.9 kg-m (42.7 lbf·ft) @ 7000 rpm 243 kg (536 lb) Chain

1982–1983 CB750SC (Nighthawk): 749 cc (45.7 cu in) 4 carburetors DOHC 4 49.64 kW (66.57 hp) @ 9000 rpm 41.54 lbf·ft (56.32 N·m) @ 7500 rpm 260.1 kg (573.5 lb) wet 5-Speed, Chain See also Honda CB700SC

1991–1993, 1995–2003 CB750 (Nighthawk): 747 cc (45.6 cu in) 4 Keihin 34 mm Constant Vacuum carburetors DOHC 4 56 kW (75 hp) @ 8500 rpm 64 N·m (47 lbf·ft) @ 7500 rpm 210 kg (463 lb)[citation needed] Chain

2007 CB750 : 747 cc (45.6 cu in) VENAC[clarification needed] DOHC 4 55 kW (74 hp) @ 8500 rpm 64 N·m (47 lbf·ft) @ 7500 rpm 240 kg (520 lb) Chain
That means the three 1993 750 Nighthawks that I have owned were right on par with all of their predecessors as far as power goes and I know this bike is a tad quicker.

2013 CB1100: 1140cc (69.5 cu-in) GM-FI electronic fuel injection Throttle Bore 32mm DOHC4 66 kW (88.5 hp) @ 7500 rpm 93 Nm (68.5 lb/ft) @ 5000 rpm 247 kg (544 lbs) wet Chain

So this bike is listed at about 13 more HP and about 20 more lb-ft of torque over the 750 at roughly the same weight. This is quicker no matter how you slice it.

Just some food for thought.