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Code Retrieval

With ignition on or idling, sidestand down, the Malfunction Indicator light (MIL) / Check Engine Light (CEL) will blink a Diagnostic Trouble Code (DTC), if the code is active.
Long blink = 1.3 seconds is a 10 value
Short blink – 0.5 second is a 1 value
Example: 2 longs + 5 short = DTC 25 (does not distinguish between 25-1 or 25-2)

For a stored code, with engine off, under the left side cover, short brown and green wires in Data Link Connector (DLC). With ignition switch on and run/stop switch in run, read code after MIL illuminates once and goes off. If MIL stays on, there is no stored DTC.

The following test condensations are a collaboration by PopGun and SportsterDoc; exclude the use of Honda diagnostics tools, requiring only a multimeter (volts and ohms).

This is a work in progress. At this point, by not utilizing the Honda MCS (Motorcycle Communications System), resistance is available only for EOT and TP sensors. With additional research/input from fellow forum members, we intend to add data to this thread.

Meanwhile, if a code is active and the following tests provide in-spec values, it is likely that the sensor has failed/is failing.

DTC 1-1 MAP (Manifold Absolute Pressure) sensor low voltage or DTC 1-2 MAP (Manifold Absolute Pressure) sensor high voltage
With MAP connector disconnected, ignition switch on, stop/run on, probe connector outside pins black/yellow (+) to black/green (-) for 4.75 to 5.25 vdc.

If no voltage, with ignition off, check continuity on black/yellow to ECM connector.

With ignition off, check MAP output center pin light green/yellow wire for no continuity (infinity) to ground. For DTC 1-2, check for continuity to ECM connector.

DTC 2-1 MAP sensor hose connection
Check electrical connectors and manifold vacuum hose is intact/connected

DTC 7-1 EOT (Engine Oil Temperature) sensor low voltage
Measure resistance of sensor between terminals of 2.4 – 2.9 K ohms at 20 degrees C/68 degrees F.

With ignition switch off, sensor disconnected, check connector pin to red/blue wire for no continuity (infinity) to ground.

DTC 7-1 EOT sensor high voltage
With ignition switch off, sensor disconnected, check for continuity of red/blue and green/orange wires to ECM connector.

DTC 8-1 TP (Throttle Position) sensor low voltage
With ignition switch on and stop/run on, probe sensor contacts to verify steady voltage increase from throttle fully closed to throttle fully open.
With ignition switch off, disconnect the connector, then with ignition switch on and stop/run on, measure voltage between connector pins black/yellow (+) to black/green (-) for 4.75 to 5.25 vdc.

If no voltage, with ignition off, check continuity on black/yellow to ECM connector, for continuity of center pin sensor output black/red wire to ECM connector and for no continuity (infinity) of black/red wire to ground.

DTC 8-2 TP (Throttle Position) sensor high voltage
With ignition switch off, disconnect the connector, measure sensor resistance between black/red and black green of 0.5 to 1.5 K ohms. Then with ignition switch on and stop/run on, measure voltage between connector pins black/yellow (+) to black/green (-) for 4.75 to 5.25 vdc.

DTC 9-1 IAT (Incoming Air Temperature) sensor low voltage
With ignition switch off, disconnect the connector, check pin to green/blue wire for no continuity (infinity) to ground.

DTC 9-2 IAT (Incoming Air Temperature) sensor high voltage
With ignition switch off, disconnect the connector, check continuity of gray/blue and green/orange to ECM.

If you notice an error, corrections are welcome.
I fully agree with all of this .........
(have no clue !)
Thank you SportsterDoc and popgun. When the time comes for me to figure this, I’ll know who to ask.
Its mostly condensed out of the manual and Doc is doing the work you see here. He being a bike tech and me an electronics tech makes collaboration easy. And it helps that we finally are getting some actual data from a couple of users.

It would be nice if we had detailed technical data on system operation from Honda, but that ain’t happening Smile

He, and I, have some other ideas for testing, but I don’t have much time to look into it until after the new year.
Sportsterdoc & Popgun, thank you guys very much. I've saved a copy of these instructions for future use.
(12-07-2017, 11:38 AM)Lord Popgun_imp Wrote: [ -> ]Its mostly condensed out of the manual and Doc is doing the work you see here. He being a bike tech and me an electronics tech makes collaboration easy. And it helps that we finally are getting some actual data from a couple of users.

It would be nice if we had detailed technical data on system operation from Honda, but that ain’t happening Smile

He, and I, have some other ideas for testing, but I don’t have much time to look into it until after the new year.

Referring to me as a bike tech may be a stretch. But I enjoy helping as much as I can.
(12-08-2017, 05:46 AM)SportsterDoc_imp Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-07-2017, 11:38 AM)Lord Popgun_imp Wrote: [ -> ]Its mostly condensed out of the manual and Doc is doing the work you see here. He being a bike tech and me an electronics tech makes collaboration easy. And it helps that we finally are getting some actual data from a couple of users.

It would be nice if we had detailed technical data on system operation from Honda, but that ain’t happening Smile

He, and I, have some other ideas for testing, but I don’t have much time to look into it until after the new year.

Referring to me as a bike tech may be a stretch. But I enjoy helping as much as I can.

You're HIRED! Now come fix my dang bike.BikerSmile
Crikey!? Do we all have to publish or CVs? Big Grin
I was wondering that too... Undecided
(12-08-2017, 08:57 AM)Cormanus_imp Wrote: [ -> ]Crikey!? Do we all have to publish or CVs? Big Grin

You are welcome to delete from "Paid vacation by Uncle Sam" on.
On any other forum, I would have second thoughts and done so myself, but this forum only gives an hour for second thoughts.
(12-08-2017, 08:45 AM)pdedse_imp Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-08-2017, 05:46 AM)SportsterDoc_imp Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-07-2017, 11:38 AM)Lord Popgun_imp Wrote: [ -> ]Its mostly condensed out of the manual and Doc is doing the work you see here. He being a bike tech and me an electronics tech makes collaboration easy. And it helps that we finally are getting some actual data from a couple of users.

It would be nice if we had detailed technical data on system operation from Honda, but that ain’t happening Smile

He, and I, have some other ideas for testing, but I don’t have much time to look into it until after the new year.

Referring to me as a bike tech may be a stretch. But I enjoy helping as much as I can.

You're HIRED! Now come fix my dang bike.BikerSmile

No longer for hire, but be happy to help evaluate diagnostics.
Checked for any vacuum loss?
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