bflint..that top pic is outstanding
Max Waite was my On-Air name when I worked the overnight shift on WKCB, 1100AM.
(11-23-2020, 10:38 AM)The ferret_imp Wrote: [ -> ]Those have to be KG and not pounds
Correct
(11-23-2020, 05:13 AM)LongRanger_imp Wrote: [ -> ]Not CB1100 specific, but when I’ve severely overloaded my bikes in the past, the handling has become sketchy (less traction on the front tire), braking distances have lengthened, and the engine has felt more strained. Generally, the load rating of the tires and axles determine the max permitted weight. I’ve not experienced bent components.
I have been at 280KG (620Ib) load, two up, for a week touring this year on my Triumph which is 50KG over the limit of 230Kg. It shrugged it off engine wise but did neeed maximum damping to keep it under control. Same for me on the brakes, I did have massive brake pad wear on that one 2K trip.
I don't see the kitchen sink, but I'm sure it's there somewhere
Great photo of the hills, too!
Handling is much about the front and rear tyres grip limit and tyre forces generation. Those forces are basically proportional to the vertical loads on the tyres. So whatever you do to the working condition of one end, you want to do the same, proportionally, to the other end.
So in terms of handling, the important is to try to keep the front/rear weight ratio as designed for the bike. If you add 80kg on the rear rack, they won't have the same effect as adding 60 on the passenger seat and 20 on a tank bag.
And the limit, for me, would be the tyres. You have to consider not only the static load and the extra effort to accelerate or brake the bike, but also the load transfers during acceleration/braking. For example: an overloaded front tyre will saturate easily during hard braking, so it can slide.
@all
really interesting answers, some I didn't see coming.
Great !
(11-23-2020, 11:52 PM)Inhouse Bob_imp Wrote: [ -> ]I don't see the kitchen sink, but I'm sure it's there somewhere
Great photo of the hills, too!
Mr Ferret also made that observation several years ago .. so I will have to quote you both now. FYI, the pretty pic is in Zion Utah.
(11-24-2020, 05:17 AM)bflint_imp Wrote: [ -> ] (11-23-2020, 11:52 PM)Inhouse Bob_imp Wrote: [ -> ]I don't see the kitchen sink, but I'm sure it's there somewhere
Great photo of the hills, too!
Mr Ferret also made that observation several years ago .. so I will have to quote you both now. FYI, the pretty pic is in Zion Utah.
Mr Ferret also made that observation several years ago .. so I will have to quote you both now. FYI, the pretty pic is in Zion Utah.
Well, since I must have inadvertently plagiarized his original work, you can just continue to quote Mr. Ferret.
When are we having a rally in Utah, folks??