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The tank and sidecovers are gorgeous!
Really looks awesome. Nicely done!!
Looks great. I'd remove a tad from the front of the seat's foam, so you'd get rid off those wrinkles.
Outstanding , love the color and thanks much for the notes

" clean looking old bike , you took good care of it " = everyone Thumbs Up
Very nice looking tank, and the new side covers really add to it.

I too find the '17 saddle very comfortable, but think the old thicker "bread loaf" style looks better.

Enjoy the bike and all of the attention it's sure to get!
(06-21-2018, 12:23 PM)tommymck_imp Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-21-2018, 12:04 PM)max_imp Wrote: [ -> ]Thanks for the response and the pictures Tommy.
We were all hanging out to see what the end result would be and here we are.

From your comments i wasn't sure if you had seen the first video so i kept feeding the hints, once i saw how it was done it all " clicked in place " and i had a sniggle at how simple it actually was.

Just googled" honda fuel line connector white clip" and there it was, it is mostly what and how you ask google, try different combinations because the poster of the article/video may have used similar but different words.
Anyway i hope that the white ( safety ) clip is now in it's proper place and a decisive " click " was heard when the connector was pushed onto the fuel line.

Might be an idea to ask mr takahashi to include more " international " instructions for the different connectors.

Safe driving BikerHello

Woulda coulda shoulda done a better google job. Actually, the white clip itself doesn't do anything from a safety perspective. It's just a mechanism to get the fuel line connector off. I never did manage to re-install it, but once you reinstall the fuel line, that connector isn't going anywhere. The tabs in the connector make sure of that. The white clip now resides in my tool box so if I ever need to remove the fuel line again, I'll have it ready at hand.

Upon inspection, and this isn't revealed in the video that was posted (the clip in the video is similar, but not the same), the technique is to push a small tab on the white clip forward - towards the center of the tank. Then you can push the white clip in towards the center of the fuel line. Once the white clip is pushed in, tongs on it push tabs in the fuel line connector out, letting you (with significant effort) pull the line off. Even knowing this, and even if I didn't incorrectly remove the white clip (I thought it was a retaining clip), it wouldn't be easy to simultaneously push the white clip tab in, push the white clip down and pull the line off.

Mr. T's instructions didn't include anything regarding removing the fuel line. He probably figures anybody doing this would know what they are doing (unlike me.) The instructions that were included had to do with installing an overflow line (which wasn't required as it turns out...but since it was tight, Mr. T. probably figured that it would be best if he'd provide a longer drain tube) and with placing the fuel float. There was only one way to install the fuel pump / float assembly, so instructions really weren't necessary.

Thanks for all the help Max, and everybody else who responded!!! Hope this helps any other '17 owners who need to remove the tank....

Woulda coulda shoulda done a better google job. Actually, the white clip itself doesn't do anything from a safety perspective. It's just a mechanism to get the fuel line connector off. I never did manage to re-install it, but once you reinstall the fuel line, that connector isn't going anywhere. The tabs in the connector make sure of that. The white clip now resides in my tool box so if I ever need to remove the fuel line again, I'll have it ready at hand.

Upon inspection, and this isn't revealed in the video that was posted (the clip in the video is similar, but not the same), the technique is to push a small tab on the white clip forward - towards the center of the tank. Then you can push the white clip in towards the center of the fuel line. Once the white clip is pushed in, tongs on it push tabs in the fuel line connector out, letting you (with significant effort) pull the line off. Even knowing this, and even if I didn't incorrectly remove the white clip (I thought it was a retaining clip), it wouldn't be easy to simultaneously push the white clip tab in, push the white clip down and pull the line off.

Hope this helps any other '17 owners who need to remove the tank....
This I think will be a huge help. I actually called my dealer to ask about removing the tank on my new 2017 because I am thinking of taking the tank to a local place that does auto paint film and having the tank done with llumar or xpel film, since nobody seems to offer pre-cut tank protection film for the new EX. When I spoke with the dealer service department I was told they had not yet removed an EX tank and couldn't tell me anything. I also have been looking into a factory service manual but it does not look like there is 2017-only version. Helm sells a "2013-2017" version that is a digital copy of an original manual and I have read that if you order one from a dealer, they will get it from Helm in any event.
Helm is the official provider of the service manual. You can order it direct from Helm or get it from the dealer. Either way it is from Helm and is the same manual.

Honda doesn’t put out a new manual for every model year. You get one and it covers all the years.

You should have seen the service manual for my 2012 ST 1300. Came with a ton of change pages to cover all the years.
I wish Samurider made the 77-78 tank design. The 77-78 CB750 K is one of the prettiest bikes ever produced. At some point I might be a couple of tanks and find me an excellent metal man.
(06-19-2018, 10:25 AM)tommymck_imp Wrote: [ -> ]This was waiting for me when I got home....

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I've been struggling with disconnecting the fuel line for the last half-hour. I need to invest in the 2017 shop manual anyway, but I'm sensing that this is something I'll need to wrestle with even with that. Could have just had the local dealer swap it out, but where is the fun in that???


That looks dreamy. Well done!
(06-21-2018, 09:38 AM)tommymck_imp Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-21-2018, 08:17 AM)max_imp Wrote: [ -> ]Sorry guys, last one from yt explains all; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h28OQoUmHwY

Interesting video, but evidently there are lots of variations on the theme.

So, I was successful for the most part. I couldn't figure out how to re-install the white plastic clip with the line still connected. But once I figured out that it pulled a pair of tabs on the connector out (instead of in) I managed to use it as a tool to move the two tabs out enough to remove the line. Took 45 minutes to do it. Maybe just my lack of finesse, but in order to expose both tabs, I needed to lower the tank enough that I could rotate the line so that I could get at both tabs at the same time. Very little room to work with. Gentle persistence always seems to pay off though, and I eventually managed it. Assuming that the manual for the '17 has this procedure in it, it'd have saved a ton of time.

The interesting thing (and what keeps this from being a complete success) is that once I removed the tank, I still couldn't figure out how to re-install the clip on to the connector. I had plenty of room at that point to work with it. Still and all, 10 minutes of playing with it didn't yield anything and I was just plain impatient to move forward....thinking that so long as I save the clip, I can always repeat what I did again. After I made the command decision to forget about the white clip, it was 15 minutes at most before I had the new tank on.

Other notes......

1. The overflow nipple on the KB tank is slightly shorter than on the stock tank. Samurider includes a separate drain line to use, but with a little work, the stock drain tube does in fact connect.

2. Fuel gauge reads empty at empty and full at full. Remains to be seen if it reads empty before it's actually empty. The rather cryptic instructions talks about placement of the float, but really there is just one way to install the fuel pump assembly. Seems to work fine.

3. The stock seat is a PITA to install now. I might explore other seat options from Samurider that work better with the tank, but I'm probably the only person on this forum who finds the stock seat perfect. Perfect height, perfect comfort, perfect everything. The issue is that WhiteHouse tank doesn't leave as much room at the front of the seat. You really have to fiddle with it and scrunch the seat forward with some elbow grease to get it to work. I'm going to have to work something out though because unless the seat sort of adjusts itself, there is a bit of a scrunch in the front that bugs me visually.

4. I opted to get the vintage fuel cap. I wasn't sure what to expect, but figured that I'd likely use my existing cap. I love the vintage one though. Also love that I don't need to use the key. Press a tab and presto. Cap swivels up.

5. The tank comes with matching side covers. To be honest, I wasn't a big fan based on what I saw in pictures. I felt obligated to install them though to see what they looked like, but I figured that I'd stick with the stock panels. Nop. In person, I like the matching covers better. Installed, they "seem" like they'd rattle since there is a little play based on how the cover tabs fit with the bike. Not an issue at all while riding though. I'm keeping them.

Remains to be seen if I did something stupid. Haven't put enough miles on it yet (only 20 or so) to see if I've kinked a vent line. Don't smell any leaks, so I think that the seal at the fuel pump is A OK.

The last comment has to do with the looks. I really dig it. It really shouldn't matter, but it really changes the way that the bike feels while riding it. By the way, I still love the stock look. It appeals to me in a different way, and I'll likely swap back and forth.

Before:
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After:
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That is beautiful!!!
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