that is said - in this diminished market, this bike won't be a good seller in near future. Honda injects many new models to revive its bike image. It is somewhat coincident - the winter time, a slow market for all motorcycle. The CB11 is for middle age people
Honda told my dealers they sent three CB1100s to see if the dealer can sell it, the dealer told me: it's a joke we sold hundreds of bikes a month, that was in last August. At this time they are struggling ... it is not easy to see or hear. It is hard to see them suffered, but everyone does
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Yesterday, a lot people showed up for Thanksgiving super Friday sale, few actual buyers
The best sold bike in Germany (and elsewhere in Europe) is the BMW R 1200 GS ("Gummikuh"). The base bike (with no additional features) costs roughly 14500 EUR (19500 USD), but none of the bikes go out of the dealer's door like this. Most of the bikes are equipped with additional features and end up at a price of 16-17000 EUR (21500-23000 USD).
Again ... above 20000 USD and best sold bike!
Why?
Because it is for the middle age people ... and they have money.
Agreed the market for this bike middle age people that can afford such a bike . I laughed when the dealer tried to sell me an extended warranty and told him that in the unlikely event of a major repair, a large bill won't jam me up like some kid who financed his primary means of transportation. Not that I'm rich, but If I have $11k to buy a big toy, I have the means to pay for repairs as we'll.
That said, I was still worried sales wouldn't be strong enough to justify another model year, so I got mine while the getting was good. My dealer had 1 CB1100 on the floor and 4 in crates. I got the only ABS model and they wouldn't be getting g another one of those until Jan.
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Sure, I agree that neither the CB 1100 2013 was nor the (potential) CB 1100 EX 2014 will be a kind of "million seller".
I heard that only a contingent of 600 bikes were shipped to Germany, and some dealers still have some left in their showroom. The best sold Honda in Germany in 2013 was up to end of November the NC700S with a bit more than 2500 bikes sold. Another 2000 NC700X were sold so far in 2013. I saw a "Top 50" ranking where the #50 was a bike which was sold (from jan-Nov) roughly 450 times. And the CB 1100 was not part of the "Top 50" list. So Honda sold less than 450 items.
Well in other words: We all own a very exclusive piece of motorcycle.
I bought this bike because it appealed to my particular taste in motorcycles rather than any notion of it becoming a huge seller and I had to have one to join the crowd. I guess we are a small segment of the motorcycling community who appreciate this classic look and feel; having a somewhat rare bike is somewhat appealing. However, I'm glad there were/are a few years of production to ensure a measure of spares and support for this model.
(11-30-2013, 05:52 PM)ingobohn_imp Wrote: [ -> ]The best sold bike in Germany (and elsewhere in Europe) is the BMW R 1200 GS ("Gummikuh"). The base bike (with no additional features) costs roughly 14500 EUR (19500 USD), but none of the bikes go out of the dealer's door like this. Most of the bikes are equipped with additional features and end up at a price of 16-17000 EUR (21500-23000 USD).
Again ... above 20000 USD and best sold bike!
Why?
Because it is for the middle age people ... and they have money.
BMW's are not what their cracked up to be.Yes,The Germans
are the mechanics and the French the cooks.The Italians are
the lovers.
Go to master BMW mechanic Chris Harris at YouTube.
Type in - Chris Harris motorcycle -.
Hear him cuss out BMW for a lot of stuff.
BMW also charges way to much.
Take the 10 year or older BMW Montana priced at $ 15,990.
With a 1200 c engine { 1170 cc } and compare to a
Harley T-sport at $ 14,720.With a TC 88 engine { 1450 cc}
(12-01-2013, 05:09 AM)_imp Wrote: [ -> ] (11-30-2013, 05:52 PM)ingobohn_imp Wrote: [ -> ]The best sold bike in Germany (and elsewhere in Europe) is the BMW R 1200 GS ("Gummikuh"). The base bike (with no additional features) costs roughly 14500 EUR (19500 USD), but none of the bikes go out of the dealer's door like this. Most of the bikes are equipped with additional features and end up at a price of 16-17000 EUR (21500-23000 USD).
Again ... above 20000 USD and best sold bike!
Why?
Because it is for the middle age people ... and they have money.
BMW's are not what their cracked up to be.Yes,The Germans
are the mechanics and the French the cooks.The Italians are
the lovers.
Go to master BMW mechanic Chris Harris at YouTube.
Type in - Chris Harris motorcycle -.
Hear him cuss out BMW for a lot of stuff.
BMW also charges way to much.
Take the 10 year or older BMW Montana priced at $ 15,990.
With a 1200 c engine { 1170 cc } and compare to a
Harley T-sport at $ 14,720.With a TC 88 engine { 1450 cc}
BMW's are not what their cracked up to be.Yes,The Germans
are the mechanics and the French the cooks.The Italians are
the lovers. And what are the U.S. Americans then...?
Quote: Go to master BMW mechanic Chris Harris at YouTube.
Type in - Chris Harris motorcycle -.
Hear him cuss out BMW for a lot of stuff. You do not need to convince me. Although I am German, I decided not to buy a BMW ... part of the decision was what you described above.
Quote: BMW also charges way to much.
Take the 10 year or older BMW Montana priced at $ 15,990.
With a 1200 c engine { 1170 cc } and compare to a
Harley T-sport at $ 14,720.With a TC 88 engine { 1450 cc} Another part of my decision not to go for a BMW.
I test rode a R 1200 R, nice bike but did not catch me. The dealer offered me that bike (6 month old, 9000 km) for only
14500 EUR (19700 USD). I refused to buy it. *haha*
By the way: Neither do I have a German bike nor a German car (it's one from the country of the cooks).
Gee Whiz, I wish I was middle aged again.
I got the extended warranty. When you're my age you don't like financial surprises.
That's one more reason to keep the bike!
