(02-10-2016, 08:24 AM)dirt road_imp Wrote: [ -> ]Chains arent all that bad , but I would love to park a new VFR1200 ...with shaft drive....in the garage next to my CB1100.
+1 on this idea!
I have always liked the VFR models, which made my choice of the CB1100 a little harder. Unfortunately my budget only allows me one bike in my garage.
(02-10-2016, 08:40 AM)Ron in MO_imp Wrote: [ -> ] (02-10-2016, 08:24 AM)dirt road_imp Wrote: [ -> ]Chains arent all that bad , but I would love to park a new VFR1200 ...with shaft drive....in the garage next to my CB1100.
+1 on this idea!
I have always liked the VFR models, which made my choice of the CB1100 a little harder. Unfortunately my budget only allows me one bike in my garage.
+1 on this idea!
I have always liked the VFR models, which made my choice of the CB1100 a little harder. Unfortunately my budget only allows me one bike in my garage.
Here you go.
http://jacksonville.craigslist.org/mcy/5418263274.html
(02-10-2016, 08:59 AM)redbirds_imp Wrote: [ -> ] (02-10-2016, 08:40 AM)Ron in MO_imp Wrote: [ -> ] (02-10-2016, 08:24 AM)dirt road_imp Wrote: [ -> ]Chains arent all that bad , but I would love to park a new VFR1200 ...with shaft drive....in the garage next to my CB1100.
+1 on this idea!
I have always liked the VFR models, which made my choice of the CB1100 a little harder. Unfortunately my budget only allows me one bike in my garage.
+1 on this idea!
I have always liked the VFR models, which made my choice of the CB1100 a little harder. Unfortunately my budget only allows me one bike in my garage.
Here you go.
http://jacksonville.craigslist.org/mcy/5418263274.html
+1 on this idea!
I have always liked the VFR models, which made my choice of the CB1100 a little harder. Unfortunately my budget only allows me one bike in my garage.
Here you go.
http://jacksonville.craigslist.org/mcy/5418263274.html
Beautiful! Buying this would be grounds for divorce!
A couple points: Shaft vs chain is like Protestant vs Catholic, Ford vs. Chevy, Mary Ann vs. Ginger. I see no profit in going down that road.
Back in the early 80's Honda mated a shaft drive to an inline four to create the big CB900 Custom. To do so they had to add a couple extra components which gave them this very cool hi-low range but a longer bike. Never rode one, but I liked the bike. Not a sales success (it was up against the GL1100 for touring and we all know how that turned out).
Finally; for what it is, the CB1100 had to be chain drive. She is a retro bike, designed for the modern world. If it had come out with a shaft drive, most of us would have said "should have been a chain drive, all the old sporty I4 Honda's were chain drive; Honda missed the mark going with a shaft".
If you make all these "improvements" to the CB1100 you now have an older design (refreshed, but dang, old hat!) up against modern bikes that have already taken advantage of years of improvements. We already have great choices to spend our money on than a throw back bike with shaft drive. I'm pretty sure the Moto Guzzi would be a better choice unless Honda could out Moto Guzzi Moto Guzzi (and I think they could very easily).
Honda could very easily design them selves right out of the niche the CB1100 sits in; ruining a very well thought out machine and shooting its' self in the foot as customers flocked away from it.
All of the big 4 used to have a huge selection of shaft drive bikes v twins, v4s and I 4's down to 500ccs. How many are left in there line ups? And how many belt drive Japanese bikes are there. How many have hydraulic lifters? The Japanese seemed to have settle into this shim under bucket and chain drive as about the only options.
I dont think anyone here is suggesting that the Cb1100 should have been shaft drive. i think there are some that are lamenting the availability of models with shaft drive though.
Shaft is over rated, chain is under rated. I have two chain drive bikes and one shaft drive. When I choose one to ride, the final drive is not even in the equation.
That said; I like the fact we have choices. We seem to have lots of choices too. Perhaps not to everyones liking, but we have choices.
Not sure where belts fit in though. Have never owned one, have never had a strong desire to get a belt drive (or avoid them).
I have one chain drive bike, one shaft drive bike, and two belt drive bikes. Aside from occasionally cleaning and spraying the chain, there's no difference to me between any of them, although removing the rear wheel on the shaft- and belt-drive bikes is a simple job, while the chain-drive bike requires a bit more effort. But none have stranded me, and I can't discern any difference when I'm riding. That said, I agree with most here that a shaft or belt "doesn't belong" on the CB. The chain is fine and fits the bike's image nicely.
(02-11-2016, 06:49 AM)Inhouse Bob_imp Wrote: [ -> ]Ginger was hot.
That is because she had a fever...
Mary Ann on the other hand has the really good looking bomb shell of the show. We all knew we had a chance to get a date with the girl from Kansas, not from Hollywood.
Ferret'll gonna shut this one down. Mary Ann, Ginger . . . and shaft drive!!