(11-29-2018, 01:49 PM)The ferret_imp Wrote: [ -> ]I wouldn't pay $1K if all four of the Beatles got back together for a gig, and I'm a big Beatle Fan. I did pay $4.50 to see them at Crosley Field in Cincinnati in 1966
ferret, you're telling me you wouldn't pay $1k to see somebody literally rise from the dead and play a song for you? that's cold man.
Nope that's a lot of money in my world lol
I grew up really poor and learned to place values on things. My son buys blue jeans and gym shoes that cost $100 each. I find that crazy. I pay $20 for jeans and maybe $40 for gym shoes.
My son in law has no problem paying $60 for a meal. When I eat out it's always under $25.I usually order water to drink because I'm not paying $2 for one glass of pop. I don't smoke or drink alcohol (very expensive habits), or gamble ( basically giving away money imo), and I don't buy lottery tickets (also basically just giving away money). I prefer $89 a night hotels to $130 a night hotels.
To put it in motorcycle terms, I would never pay $600 for a helmet. I could not pay $1000 for a jacket and pants or $500 for boots, I don't care who makes them or how good they supposedly are, I just cant justify paying that much for them. I thought Staintune mufflers were cool but I'd never pay $800 for one. Or $1000-$1500 for a pair of shocks, or $800 for a custom seat. My bikes all come with mufflers, seats and shocks I find quite acceptable. That's why I wear HJC helmets, Tourmaster jackets, pants and gloves, and Alpinestar boots. I find them a good value for the money. I guess I'm just frugal. Then again that has allowed me to live debt free for decades.
I don't begrudge people who make those kinds of purchases, but money has been too hard to come by in my life, for extravagant (in my view) purchases. To each his own.
I save my money for gas, oil, tires, brake pads etc (and I wish all those were cheaper) lol.
(11-30-2018, 02:05 AM)The ferret_imp Wrote: [ -> ]Nope that's a lot of money in my world lol
I grew up really poor and learned to place values on things. My son buys blue jeans and gym shoes that cost $100 each. I find that crazy. I pay $20 for jeans and maybe $40 for gym shoes.
My son in law has no problem paying $60 for a meal. When I eat out it's always under $25.I usually order water to drink because I'm not paying $2 for one glass of pop. I don't smoke or drink alcohol (very expensive habits), or gamble ( basically giving away money imo), and I don't buy lottery tickets (also basically just giving away money). I prefer $89 a night hotels to $130 a night hotels.
To put it in motorcycle terms, I would never pay $600 for a helmet. I could not pay $1000 for a jacket and pants or $500 for boots, I don't care who makes them or how good they supposedly are, I just cant justify paying that much for them. I thought Staintune mufflers were cool but I'd never pay $800 for one. Or $1000-$1500 for a pair of shocks, or $800 for a custom seat. My bikes all come with mufflers, seats and shocks I find quite acceptable. That's why I wear HJC helmets, Tourmaster jackets, pants and gloves, and Alpinestar boots. I find them a good value for the money. I guess I'm just frugal. Then again that has allowed me to live debt free for decades.
I don't begrudge people who make those kinds of purchases, but money has been too hard to come by in my life, for extravagant (in my view) purchases. To each his own.
I save my money for gas, oil, tires, brake pads etc (and I wish all those were cheaper) lol.
Well said, Ferret!
So just for your amusement...
The Rolling Stones – 50th Anniversary Tour (2013) – Average Price: $624!
Forbes.com Wrote:...The Rolling Stones tickets for their 50th Anniversary Tour blew all other concert tickets out of the water in 2013, pricing at a lofty average of $624 dollars on the secondary market. The highest priced stop on the tour took place on May 11 at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas, and carried an average ticket price of $1044 dollars. Adults might’ve been shelling out big bucks for their kids to see the One Direction tour, which ranked second on our list. But they were still willing to pay a 36% premium for themselves on The Rolling Stones tickets, propelling Mick Jagger, Keith Richards and crew to the #1 highest priced concert tour of 2013.
no wonder they're having so much fun on stage
![[Image: 00a465cf32977643fce3b266662f3d03.jpg?fit...und=000000]](https://cb1100forum.net/forum/uploads/imp/201811/00a465cf32977643fce3b266662f3d03.jpg?fit=scale&background=000000)
I agree with Ferret on many of the things he said, both our parents were poor and we grew up to live frugally and not spend more than you make.
We always paid our house of as soon as possible and never had any credit card debts. Never smoked or done drugs or gambled, ( I do like a drink !)
Also we saved as much money as we could to pay cash for things we needed or perhaps wanted. One way to become poor is to get divorced a few times; riding buddy of ours has been divorced 4 times and now lives by himself in an old trailer. He was a highly paid FL State trooper all his life. Of course all his wife's were bad and he was perfect....
We have been married for nearly 45 years and now we can enjoy live and do the things what gives us pleasure.
To me the most important thing to get ahead in life is discipline : in school , your job , your marriage and in taking care of your health.
Some of the young people I worked with in the past ask what is the secret to a long lasting marriage ? I tell them it is very simple you pick the right spouse in the first place , the right one for YOU.
(11-30-2018, 12:59 AM)misterprofessionality_imp Wrote: [ -> ] (11-29-2018, 01:49 PM)The ferret_imp Wrote: [ -> ]I wouldn't pay $1K if all four of the Beatles got back together for a gig, and I'm a big Beatle Fan. I did pay $4.50 to see them at Crosley Field in Cincinnati in 1966
ferret, you're telling me you wouldn't pay $1k to see somebody literally rise from the dead and play a song for you? that's cold man.
ferret, you're telling me you wouldn't pay $1k to see somebody literally rise from the dead and play a song for you? that's cold man.
(11-30-2018, 02:05 AM)The ferret_imp Wrote: [ -> ]Nope that's a lot of money in my world lol
I grew up really poor and learned to place values on things. My son buys blue jeans and gym shoes that cost $100 each. I find that crazy. I pay $20 for jeans and maybe $40 for gym shoes.
My son in law has no problem paying $60 for a meal. When I eat out it's always under $25.I usually order water to drink because I'm not paying $2 for one glass of pop. I don't smoke or drink alcohol (very expensive habits), or gamble ( basically giving away money imo), and I don't buy lottery tickets (also basically just giving away money). I prefer $89 a night hotels to $130 a night hotels.
To put it in motorcycle terms, I would never pay $600 for a helmet. I could not pay $1000 for a jacket and pants or $500 for boots, I don't care who makes them or how good they supposedly are, I just cant justify paying that much for them. I thought Staintune mufflers were cool but I'd never pay $800 for one. Or $1000-$1500 for a pair of shocks, or $800 for a custom seat. My bikes all come with mufflers, seats and shocks I find quite acceptable. That's why I wear HJC helmets, Tourmaster jackets, pants and gloves, and Alpinestar boots. I find them a good value for the money. I guess I'm just frugal. Then again that has allowed me to live debt free for decades.
I don't begrudge people who make those kinds of purchases, but money has been too hard to come by in my life, for extravagant (in my view) purchases. To each his own.
I save my money for gas, oil, tires, brake pads etc (and I wish all those were cheaper) lol.
(11-30-2018, 04:10 AM)jedd_imp Wrote: [ -> ] (11-30-2018, 02:05 AM)The ferret_imp Wrote: [ -> ]Nope that's a lot of money in my world lol
I grew up really poor and learned to place values on things. My son buys blue jeans and gym shoes that cost $100 each. I find that crazy. I pay $20 for jeans and maybe $40 for gym shoes.
My son in law has no problem paying $60 for a meal. When I eat out it's always under $25.I usually order water to drink because I'm not paying $2 for one glass of pop. I don't smoke or drink alcohol (very expensive habits), or gamble ( basically giving away money imo), and I don't buy lottery tickets (also basically just giving away money). I prefer $89 a night hotels to $130 a night hotels.
To put it in motorcycle terms, I would never pay $600 for a helmet. I could not pay $1000 for a jacket and pants or $500 for boots, I don't care who makes them or how good they supposedly are, I just cant justify paying that much for them. I thought Staintune mufflers were cool but I'd never pay $800 for one. Or $1000-$1500 for a pair of shocks, or $800 for a custom seat. My bikes all come with mufflers, seats and shocks I find quite acceptable. That's why I wear HJC helmets, Tourmaster jackets, pants and gloves, and Alpinestar boots. I find them a good value for the money. I guess I'm just frugal. Then again that has allowed me to live debt free for decades.
I don't begrudge people who make those kinds of purchases, but money has been too hard to come by in my life, for extravagant (in my view) purchases. To each his own.
I save my money for gas, oil, tires, brake pads etc (and I wish all those were cheaper) lol.
Well said, Ferret!
So just for your amusement...
The Rolling Stones – 50th Anniversary Tour (2013) – Average Price: $624!
Forbes.com Wrote:...The Rolling Stones tickets for their 50th Anniversary Tour blew all other concert tickets out of the water in 2013, pricing at a lofty average of $624 dollars on the secondary market. The highest priced stop on the tour took place on May 11 at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas, and carried an average ticket price of $1044 dollars. Adults might’ve been shelling out big bucks for their kids to see the One Direction tour, which ranked second on our list. But they were still willing to pay a 36% premium for themselves on The Rolling Stones tickets, propelling Mick Jagger, Keith Richards and crew to the #1 highest priced concert tour of 2013.
no wonder they're having so much fun on stage
![[Image: 00a465cf32977643fce3b266662f3d03.jpg?fit...und=000000]](https://cb1100forum.net/forum/uploads/imp/201811/00a465cf32977643fce3b266662f3d03.jpg?fit=scale&background=000000)
Well said, Ferret!
So just for your amusement...
The Rolling Stones – 50th Anniversary Tour (2013) – Average Price: $624!
Forbes.com Wrote:...The Rolling Stones tickets for their 50th Anniversary Tour blew all other concert tickets out of the water in 2013, pricing at a lofty average of $624 dollars on the secondary market. The highest priced stop on the tour took place on May 11 at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas, and carried an average ticket price of $1044 dollars. Adults might’ve been shelling out big bucks for their kids to see the One Direction tour, which ranked second on our list. But they were still willing to pay a 36% premium for themselves on The Rolling Stones tickets, propelling Mick Jagger, Keith Richards and crew to the #1 highest priced concert tour of 2013.
no wonder they're having so much fun on stage
(11-30-2018, 04:14 AM)Houtman_imp Wrote: [ -> ]I agree with Ferret on many of the things he said, both our parents were poor and we grew up to live frugally and not spend more than you make.
We always paid our house of as soon as possible and never had any credit card debts. Never smoked or done drugs or gambled, ( I do like a drink !)
Also we saved as much money as we could to pay cash for things we needed or perhaps wanted. One way to become poor is to get divorced a few times; riding buddy of ours has been divorced 4 times and now lives by himself in an old trailer. He was a highly paid FL State trooper all his life. Of course all his wife's were bad and he was perfect....
We have been married for nearly 45 years and now we can enjoy live and do the things what gives us pleasure.
To me the most important thing to get ahead in life is discipline : in school , your job , your marriage and in taking care of your health.
Some of the young people I worked with in the past ask what is the secret to a long lasting marriage ? I tell them it is very simple you pick the right spouse in the first place , the right one for YOU.
Agree with most of them and 100% with John last sentence (bold)






and i like only still the famous old hit versions of the songs....from all this oldstars .....if you get old(er) you lost the voice.....
(11-30-2018, 04:56 AM)peterbaron_imp Wrote: [ -> ] (11-30-2018, 12:59 AM)misterprofessionality_imp Wrote: [ -> ] (11-29-2018, 01:49 PM)The ferret_imp Wrote: [ -> ]I wouldn't pay $1K if all four of the Beatles got back together for a gig, and I'm a big Beatle Fan. I did pay $4.50 to see them at Crosley Field in Cincinnati in 1966
ferret, you're telling me you wouldn't pay $1k to see somebody literally rise from the dead and play a song for you? that's cold man.
ferret, you're telling me you wouldn't pay $1k to see somebody literally rise from the dead and play a song for you? that's cold man.
(11-30-2018, 02:05 AM)The ferret_imp Wrote: [ -> ]Nope that's a lot of money in my world lol
I grew up really poor and learned to place values on things. My son buys blue jeans and gym shoes that cost $100 each. I find that crazy. I pay $20 for jeans and maybe $40 for gym shoes.
My son in law has no problem paying $60 for a meal. When I eat out it's always under $25.I usually order water to drink because I'm not paying $2 for one glass of pop. I don't smoke or drink alcohol (very expensive habits), or gamble ( basically giving away money imo), and I don't buy lottery tickets (also basically just giving away money). I prefer $89 a night hotels to $130 a night hotels.
To put it in motorcycle terms, I would never pay $600 for a helmet. I could not pay $1000 for a jacket and pants or $500 for boots, I don't care who makes them or how good they supposedly are, I just cant justify paying that much for them. I thought Staintune mufflers were cool but I'd never pay $800 for one. Or $1000-$1500 for a pair of shocks, or $800 for a custom seat. My bikes all come with mufflers, seats and shocks I find quite acceptable. That's why I wear HJC helmets, Tourmaster jackets, pants and gloves, and Alpinestar boots. I find them a good value for the money. I guess I'm just frugal. Then again that has allowed me to live debt free for decades.
I don't begrudge people who make those kinds of purchases, but money has been too hard to come by in my life, for extravagant (in my view) purchases. To each his own.
I save my money for gas, oil, tires, brake pads etc (and I wish all those were cheaper) lol.
(11-30-2018, 04:10 AM)jedd_imp Wrote: [ -> ] (11-30-2018, 02:05 AM)The ferret_imp Wrote: [ -> ]Nope that's a lot of money in my world lol
I grew up really poor and learned to place values on things. My son buys blue jeans and gym shoes that cost $100 each. I find that crazy. I pay $20 for jeans and maybe $40 for gym shoes.
My son in law has no problem paying $60 for a meal. When I eat out it's always under $25.I usually order water to drink because I'm not paying $2 for one glass of pop. I don't smoke or drink alcohol (very expensive habits), or gamble ( basically giving away money imo), and I don't buy lottery tickets (also basically just giving away money). I prefer $89 a night hotels to $130 a night hotels.
To put it in motorcycle terms, I would never pay $600 for a helmet. I could not pay $1000 for a jacket and pants or $500 for boots, I don't care who makes them or how good they supposedly are, I just cant justify paying that much for them. I thought Staintune mufflers were cool but I'd never pay $800 for one. Or $1000-$1500 for a pair of shocks, or $800 for a custom seat. My bikes all come with mufflers, seats and shocks I find quite acceptable. That's why I wear HJC helmets, Tourmaster jackets, pants and gloves, and Alpinestar boots. I find them a good value for the money. I guess I'm just frugal. Then again that has allowed me to live debt free for decades.
I don't begrudge people who make those kinds of purchases, but money has been too hard to come by in my life, for extravagant (in my view) purchases. To each his own.
I save my money for gas, oil, tires, brake pads etc (and I wish all those were cheaper) lol.
Well said, Ferret!
So just for your amusement...
The Rolling Stones – 50th Anniversary Tour (2013) – Average Price: $624!
Forbes.com Wrote:...The Rolling Stones tickets for their 50th Anniversary Tour blew all other concert tickets out of the water in 2013, pricing at a lofty average of $624 dollars on the secondary market. The highest priced stop on the tour took place on May 11 at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas, and carried an average ticket price of $1044 dollars. Adults might’ve been shelling out big bucks for their kids to see the One Direction tour, which ranked second on our list. But they were still willing to pay a 36% premium for themselves on The Rolling Stones tickets, propelling Mick Jagger, Keith Richards and crew to the #1 highest priced concert tour of 2013.
no wonder they're having so much fun on stage
![[Image: 00a465cf32977643fce3b266662f3d03.jpg?fit...und=000000]](https://cb1100forum.net/forum/uploads/imp/201811/00a465cf32977643fce3b266662f3d03.jpg?fit=scale&background=000000)
Well said, Ferret!
So just for your amusement...
The Rolling Stones – 50th Anniversary Tour (2013) – Average Price: $624!
Forbes.com Wrote:...The Rolling Stones tickets for their 50th Anniversary Tour blew all other concert tickets out of the water in 2013, pricing at a lofty average of $624 dollars on the secondary market. The highest priced stop on the tour took place on May 11 at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas, and carried an average ticket price of $1044 dollars. Adults might’ve been shelling out big bucks for their kids to see the One Direction tour, which ranked second on our list. But they were still willing to pay a 36% premium for themselves on The Rolling Stones tickets, propelling Mick Jagger, Keith Richards and crew to the #1 highest priced concert tour of 2013.
no wonder they're having so much fun on stage
(11-30-2018, 04:14 AM)Houtman_imp Wrote: [ -> ]I agree with Ferret on many of the things he said, both our parents were poor and we grew up to live frugally and not spend more than you make.
We always paid our house of as soon as possible and never had any credit card debts. Never smoked or done drugs or gambled, ( I do like a drink !)
Also we saved as much money as we could to pay cash for things we needed or perhaps wanted. One way to become poor is to get divorced a few times; riding buddy of ours has been divorced 4 times and now lives by himself in an old trailer. He was a highly paid FL State trooper all his life. Of course all his wife's were bad and he was perfect....
We have been married for nearly 45 years and now we can enjoy live and do the things what gives us pleasure.
To me the most important thing to get ahead in life is discipline : in school , your job , your marriage and in taking care of your health.
Some of the young people I worked with in the past ask what is the secret to a long lasting marriage ? I tell them it is very simple you pick the right spouse in the first place , the right one for YOU.
Agree with most of them and 100% with John last sentence (bold) 






Agree with most of them and 100% with John last sentence (bold)






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Agree with that too, Mrs ferret and I will celebrate 45 years of marriage in May.
I also agree with Houtman about stability in marriage being important to reaching financial goals. You have to both work towards that ultimate goal, with equal desire. One can't be frugal and the other a spender.
I have friends that were married 2-3 times. They were never able to establish a foothold financially, and like one of Houtman's friends, one is living in a little camper on his dad's property. he has basically nothing and at this point in his life at 50 + years old, probably never will. Will have to work until he keels over.
Ferret,
You need to correct this, and I cannot be credited for J.Houtman statement:
"To me the most important thing to get ahead in life is discipline : in school , your job , your marriage and in taking care of your health.
Some of the young people I worked with in the past ask what is the secret to a long lasting marriage ? I tell them it is very simple you pick the right spouse in the first place , the right one for YOU...."
however, I support it with 100%.
My father was military officer, discipline, honestly, school, helping elders and others, no drugs/alkohol were his commandments, which I follow to the present day and pass'em down onto my only son .

A different perpective:
In 1965, when I was 14 yrs old, I lived in Dayton, Ohio. My all-boys Catholic high school would have summer dances “on the slab”. Obviously, the Rolling Stones hits were played constantly.
Ten years ago, I saw them in Seattle at the Seahawks stadium. I couldn’t believe that I was seeing them in concert 40 years after that summer. I mean that literally. Up there on stage at what we would have considered to be “they are as old as my grandparents” age. My seats were so high up that I could see them arrive backstage in two white vans mere seconds before they appeared on stage. From my distant perch, I clearly saw three Starbucks cups amongst them. ;-)
The show was incredibly good...”almost” great. I loved it. But I couldn’t stop thinking about how the world and I had changed in those 40 intervening years. Cities, technologies, sound, video, crowds and so much more! I bought a poster with a close-up photo of the four. My wife watched me put it up in our tv room. “Losers!” she exclaimed. “Au contraire, mon ami!” I replied. “They are winners! Think about it, sweetie. They lived life on their terms, became certifiable geniuses (and legends) at their craft, and made obscene amounts of money doing it. And loved every minute of it!” You might not like their music, but even if you have to begrudge them their success at least acknowledge it.”
The warm-up band was Dave Matthews. “The freaking warm-up band!” Many concert-goers left after his set because that’s who they came to see. Kids these days! (At the time, Dave’s wife was in med school in town at the U of Wash.). It was a short drive for him.
Anyway, I rarely post in the forum any more. Mostly, I suppose, because of threads like this. When a forum member posts to express his joy at being able to see the Stones “one more time” on the “See ‘m before they’re dead tour”, I find it in very poor taste to turn it into a “Enough about you. Let’s talk about ME!!” thread.
Instead of congratulating someone for their good fortune and good luck, it seems several people feel obligated to share their contrary opinion of the band, all bands, family budgets, the meaning of the almighty dollar, and lord knows what else!
But...having experienced first-hand how vitriolic inmates have been about someone else (not them!) using the word farkle, I’m certainly not surprised. ;-)
Saw Rush on their R40 tour in Dallas. Their last tour. At the time, $140 seemed a lot to pay. Now, I'm glad I got to see them perform live one last time. That said, I had more fun at an OK Go concert, and tickets were 1/3 the price.