[video=youtube]http://https://youtu.be/cXzTv1hyob0[/video]
If anyone of our German friends forum memders could tell us a litlle bit of these journalists opinion i would be gratefull!
https://youtu.be/cXzTv1hyob0
Both journalists talk about a comparision of three japanese retrobikes of today. The man on the left is answering the questions the man on the right is asking.
Here are the results of the 'discussion':
The XSR is a real drivemachine, its engine sets the standard in this class and it's the ligthest one of all. But the customer has to ask himself, why not buy the MT 09 and save some money?
Same for the Kawa. If it's not for the optic why not the cheaper Z900 with an open not restricted engine? The new 900 has a harmonic drivefeel, is easy to handle, a very upright seating position, but too low footpegs can stand in the way during ambitiuos cornering.
Now our beloved CB. It's a well build bike, full of manufactorers value. The buyer gets the most metal for his money, in other words it's too heavy with a limited motor and a far too wide (secondary) gear ratio, both being contraproductiv to the letters RS, which doesn't fit to this offered bike concept. The bike is foremost a boulevard flaneer motorcycle. Concerning drive ability the EX is the better version, out of which the RS is build.
Wisedrum
Thank you for your quick response Wisedrum . Very interesting approach.
(02-04-2018, 05:57 PM)Wisedrum_imp Wrote: [ -> ]Both journalists talk about a comparision of three japanese retrobikes of today. The man on the left is answering the questions the man on the right is asking.
Here are the results of the 'discussion':
The XSR is a real drivemachine, its engine sets the standard in this class and it's the ligthest one of all. But the customer has to ask himself, why not buy the MT 09 and save some money?
Same for the Kawa. If it's not for the optic why not the cheaper Z900 with an open not restricted engine? The new 900 has a harmonic drivefeel, is easy to handle, a very upright seating position, but too low footpegs can stand in the way during ambitiuos cornering.
Now our beloved CB. It's a well build bike, full of manufactorers value. The buyer gets the most metal for his money, in other words it's too heavy with a limited motor and a far too wide (secondary) gear ratio, both being contraproductiv to the letters RS, which doesn't fit to this offered bike concept. The bike is foremost a boulevard flaneer motorcycle. Concerning drive ability the EX is the better version, out of which the RS is build.
Wisedrum
I think I may have indicated that would likely be the case. The 18" inch wheels are much better for the mission. The 17's are going to make the bike ponderous to some extent, with bump steer and a tendency to stand up under trail-braking.
The bike is similar to the Thruxton; in an outright contest where top speed is not an issue (below 100 kph, let's say) the Street Cup will prevail.
And did, indeed.
But at the local watering hole, where money spent and brake horsepower are much more important details than actually knowing how to ride well or understanding the role of suspension and tires, the CB1100EX and Street Cup will be wilfully dismissed.
I'm still contemplating the CB1100EX this year and Wisedrum's take on the German evaluation was very helpful.
Danke, I'm sure.
(02-05-2018, 04:03 AM)Ulvetanna_imp Wrote: [ -> ] (02-04-2018, 05:57 PM)Wisedrum_imp Wrote: [ -> ]Both journalists talk about a comparision of three japanese retrobikes of today. The man on the left is answering the questions the man on the right is asking.
Here are the results of the 'discussion':
The XSR is a real drivemachine, its engine sets the standard in this class and it's the ligthest one of all. But the customer has to ask himself, why not buy the MT 09 and save some money?
Same for the Kawa. If it's not for the optic why not the cheaper Z900 with an open not restricted engine? The new 900 has a harmonic drivefeel, is easy to handle, a very upright seating position, but too low footpegs can stand in the way during ambitiuos cornering.
Now our beloved CB. It's a well build bike, full of manufactorers value. The buyer gets the most metal for his money, in other words it's too heavy with a limited motor and a far too wide (secondary) gear ratio, both being contraproductiv to the letters RS, which doesn't fit to this offered bike concept. The bike is foremost a boulevard flaneer motorcycle. Concerning drive ability the EX is the better version, out of which the RS is build.
Wisedrum
I think I may have indicated that would likely be the case. The 18" inch wheels are much better for the mission. The 17's are going to make the bike ponderous to some extent, with bump steer and a tendency to stand up under trail-braking.
The bike is similar to the Thruxton; in an outright contest where top speed is not an issue (below 100 kph, let's say) the Street Cup will prevail.
And did, indeed.
But at the local watering hole, where money spent and brake horsepower are much more important details than actually knowing how to ride well or understanding the role of suspension and tires, the CB1100EX and Street Cup will be wilfully dismissed.
I'm still contemplating the CB1100EX this year and Wisedrum's take on the German evaluation was very helpful.
Danke, I'm sure.
No problem Ulvetanna, Bitteschön, you're welcome.
Wisedrum