Boundary lines are pretty narrow here lol. We try and keep it clean and family friendly, but I think ,most will still get the innuendo
it goes without saying you enjoyed your ride to work
(04-20-2016, 09:35 PM)coach50_imp Wrote: [ -> ] (04-20-2016, 08:58 AM)Lord Popgun_imp Wrote: [ -> ]Coach,
Is your bike a '14? If so, that's the first complaint of the rear brake here.
There were, I think, 4 of us that posted the problem (don't know about non posters, obviously). A dealer bled, then went back and changed the fluid and bled again for one guy. I did mine, Ferret never got around to anything and then traded and the last guy I don't remember. But all the complaints were on the '13s. Everybody with '14s said no problem.
Bleeding the brake is EASY. If you have a DLX or ABS bike, I'd have to look up how.
Hey PG;
Yes, it's a 2014. Bleeding it should not be a biggie, it just seems a little strange, in that in the past, the pedal always felt "spongey" on brakes that had air in them, the rear pedal here feels real hard, and doesn't move much, with little effect. Maybe its just different than the rear brake on my '97 Bandit...Then, again, its been 1 1/2 years since I rode, thanks to rotator cuff surgeries..so maybe I just need to recalibrate.. Thanks
Cheers
Hey PG;
Yes, it's a 2014. Bleeding it should not be a biggie, it just seems a little strange, in that in the past, the pedal always felt "spongey" on brakes that had air in them, the rear pedal here feels real hard, and doesn't move much, with little effect. Maybe its just different than the rear brake on my '97 Bandit...Then, again, its been 1 1/2 years since I rode, thanks to rotator cuff surgeries..so maybe I just need to recalibrate.. Thanks
Cheers
My service manager said the same thing. It would be spongy if it had air in it. Well he was wrong. But, it only cost me a bottle of brake fluid and a small amount of time to fix.
Just so you know. You can't really get the reservoir cap off unless you unbolt the bracket that holds the reservoir and then just move it out from under the frame cross piece. Easy. And it won't fall over. Just DO NOT get brake fluid on any paint. You may know that. Some people do not.
(04-20-2016, 11:53 PM)The ferret_imp Wrote: [ -> ]Boundary lines are pretty narrow here lol. We try and keep it clean and family friendly, but I think ,most will still get the innuendo it goes without saying you enjoyed your ride to work
Yes, i really did enjoy the ride. Being a life long NJ resident, family oriented communication doesn't come naturally to me. But its funny how having 2 grand-daughters tends to clean up ones vocabulary right nice.
Especially when I know they would rat me out to Grandma in a heart beat!
Cheers
My brakes, front and rear, are excellent. I did find a pinched throttle cable when I pulled the bike apart to check the valve clearances. I corrected this, as it was causing a cable drag issue when the bars were turned full left lock after doing the Chip Beck hand prop, er, handlebar modification. No more drag.
This rear brake thing is a real mystery to me. Brakes are simple system. If it needs bleeding it would feel mushy, not excessively firm.
Maybe some folks are jumping to conclusions about the brake. The bike has a long wheelbase and is fairly heavy, and the brake needs to wear in. Sometimes brakes take thousands of miles to really seat-in and work optimally, especially with street pads and rotors, but this sounds more like a situation where the new owner is just not used to what he's got in the new bike.
I say this because here again, many CB1100 owners are probably more used to using a lot of rear brake and not so much front, and it feels weak.
I saw a thread that also complained that the front brakes were too powerful, which tends to support that conclusion.
Yesterday I rode 55 miles of fast, deserted twisting road, and found numerous opportunities to explore the limits of both brakes, practicing bringing the front to near-lockup (tire is howling nicely, not quite squealing) and using both brakes together. These brakes are just outright superb, I wouldn't change anything about them.
Something to keep in mind when evaluating the bike is that it is in fact a sportbike and is listed as such on Honda's website. It might look like old technology, but au contraire, it is not a relic. Those brakes were lifted from the CBR1000RR of the earlier generation.
In the interest of full disclosure, I do not have ABS.
All I know is me pushing on the rear break did pretty much nothing. Bled rear brake. Worked just fine. YMMV
Ulvetanna, it's curious that Honda US classifies the bike as a sport bike. In Canada it's 'naked' (as it was in Australia when it was sold here) and in the UK it's a 'street' bike.
(04-21-2016, 05:58 AM)Cormanus_imp Wrote: [ -> ]Ulvetanna, it's curious that Honda US classifies the bike as a sport bike. In Canada it's 'naked' (as it was in Australia when it was sold here) and in the UK it's a 'street' bike.
It's all in the "marketing"...!
fritz
The US Honda site has "Sport" and "Supersport" categories. Fritz is probably right about marketing. As I said in another thread, "Standard" seems just too standard.
Incidentally, I don't think it's fair to assume that many of us are used to using a lot of rear brake. Even one media review of our bike mentioned the weak rear brake.
So, I have now managed to reach 159 miles on the bike, and each ride to work ( 20 miles round trip), I find myself settling into the bike more and more. It starting to feel like Honda built this bike for me! Haven't done anything about the rear brake, but bleeding it is on the list.
Ride safe this w/e!!
Don't ya just hate it when something "slips out" and you have to say, "don't ever say that"! I have 4 grandkids from 16 down to 1 (the two youngest I baby sit every Friday) so I know what you're talking about.